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Is anyone able to find me a William Ellbourn born 1797 who lived in Barrowden, Rutland - wife is Ursula ;
children Henry 1824 and William 1827.
Would be great to find them and see if any more siblings come to light.
Thanks in advance,
Cougar
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Hello
I have looked in both the 41 and 51 for Barrowden and I cannot find any Ellbourn's. I have searched the 51 index for Rutland and still no Ellbourn's.
Maybe Mike will do more of a search Leicester way to see if they crossed the border.
Paul.
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Greeting's Paul....
Following drawing a blank for Leicestershire & Rutland 51 ~61.
;D I was about to toss it over to you for 41. Censuses ;D
Only two Small families under the names of Ellbourn & Ellbourne found on the whole of UK 1861. Census
in the villages of Chesham & Amersham Buckinghamshire...
And one Thomas servant in Yeovill Sumerset
Cougar...
Looking at my maps Barrowden sits right on the border of Rutland and Northamptonshire
and seeing that Barrowden is mentioned as a Sub Register district of Uppingham on the Northamptonshire Villages census returns.
Worth a post on the Northamptonshire section of this site ?
MIKE.
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A good idea Mike!
Such an unusual name they won't be to hard to find, will they....................?
Good luck Cougar
Paul
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Hi you two
Thank you so much for your time and effort - only just started in the inlaws so don't have much on them at all.
Now, you are both going to hate me - just discovered I put down William Ellbourn instead of William Cliff. (Ellbourns married Cliff's)
It was William Cliff that came from Barrowden - William Ellbourn I haven't found yet. Sorry about that - knew this lot would be a nightmare even before I started it.
Could I possibly beg another try, this time with the surname Cliff - please???
Thanks Cougar
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Hehehe easy mistake to make.
I will have a look on the 1841 census when I get back from a 2 day trip. I'm sure Mike will supply you with the 51 details.
Paul
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Stop laughing Paul - feel like an idiot.
One day mind and fingers will co-ordinate.
Enjoy your trip. thanks
Cougar in Oz
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G' Day Blue...
Now Taking it the age was still the same ?
:-\ ( Slaps hand on forehead )
Age not right but name is......
2093. / 34. = Barrowden.
CLIFF.
William. Head. 51.
" N" Wife. 61.
Edward. Son. 20.
Another relation with the above but spelt different. ? :-
2093. / 341. = Barrowden.
CLIFFE.
Edward. Head. 56.
Going on closest age to details given :-
2093. / 102. = Uppingham.
CLIFFE.
William. Head. 29.
Ann. Wife. 28.
Elizabeth. Dau. 7.
Sarah. A. Dau. 5.
Alice. Dau. 2.
Mary. Jane. Dau. 7 Months Old.
David. Brother. 17.
© Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001.
Now it gets a bit better :-
1861. Scanned Census Image.:-
RG 9. / 2310. / Folder. 101. / Page. 81.
Within the Village of Barrowden.
Two doors away from " The Wheel Pub."
William Cliff. Head. Mar. 61. Lab. b. Barrowden. Rutland.
Usly. Wife. 74. . b. St. Martin's Stamford. Northamptonshire.
Abraham Foster. Lodger. Umar. 42. Fell monger & Swine Buyer. b. Barrowden. Rutland.
( Just wonder if above is testing out possible sales for " Foster's xxx" ) ..... ;D
© Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004.
MIKE.
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Hi Cougar
My Grandmother was a Cliff from Ketton. She is descended from Cliff(e)'s in Morcott and Barrowden. There are many Cliff's from Barrowden and it has been very difficult to trace back when so many with the same first name where born within a few years of each other.
Check the IGI on the LDS site with batch numbers 8403031 and 8232733 and you'll see what I mean! The former lists a William Cliffe born in 1797 son of William and Mary.
Good luck!
Mike
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Hi again
1. Mike - g'day blue????? don't have red hair - sorry, try g'day (cheecky).
Thank you so much for that information -
Within the Village of Barrowden.
Two doors away from " The Wheel Pub."
William Cliff. Head. Mar. 61. Lab. b. Barrowden. Rutland.
Usly. Wife. 74. . b. St. Martin's Stamford. Northamptonshire.
BINGO - that is them - Usly should read Ursula and by 1861 sons William and Henry have come to Australia - but obviously not the parents - which explains that mystery. Thanks.
2. Mikey
Thanks - have been trying to look at the IGI and know what you mean - unfortunately for some reason - when I get the list of 'likely' ones up, check one, then go back to look at the next, I keep getting errors and have to start all over again. Don't know why it is suddenly doing this - but is a pain in the proverbial.
Will persevere though.
Thanks to you all for the time and trouble,
Cheers Sue
PS for your info - there are far better beers than XXXX
should come and try them - but beware - they are served COLD.
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Greeting’s ……
Cliff / Cllffe for the whole of Rutland 1851.
Names. / Relationship to head of household. / Age. / Coordinates. / Census Place.
CLIFF CATHERINE A DAU 21MTHS 2093 79 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF DAVID INMT 14 2093 62 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF EDWARD HEAD 57 2093 80 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF EDWARD SON 20 2093 341 BARROWDEN
CLIFF ELIJAH INMT 9 2093 62 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF ELIZABETH WIFE 52 2093 80 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF GEORGE HEAD 31 2093 79 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF HENRY SON 25 2093 80 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF JANE WIFE 32 2093 79 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF JANE DAU 11 2092 31 STRETTON
CLIFF MARY WIFE 35 2093 80 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF MARY DAU 32 2092 31 STRETTON
CLIFF N WIFE 61 2093 341 BARROWDEN
CLIFF SARAH A LODG 22 2093 85 UPPINGHAM
CLIFF WILLIAM HEAD 51 2093 341 BARROWDEN
CLIFFE ALICE DAU 2 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE ANN WIFE 60 2093 340 BARROWDEN
CLIFFE ANN HEAD 56 2093 374 MORCOTT
CLIFFE ANN WIFE 43 2093 380 MORCOTT
CLIFFE ANN HEAD 33 2094 40 KETTON
CLIFFE ANN WIFE 28 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE ANN SERV 15 2093 285 CALDECOTT
CLIFFE CAROLINE SDAU 18 2093 110 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE DANIEL HEAD 35 2093 374 MORCOTT
CLIFFE DANIEL SON 13 2094 47 KETTON
CLIFFE DAVID LODG 81 2093 399 WING
CLIFFE DAVID BROT 17 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE EDWARD HEAD 56 2093 340 BARROWDEN
CLIFFE ELIJAH SERV 17 2093 108 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE ELISABETH DAU 4 2093 374 MORCOTT
CLIFFE ELIZABETH SERV 17 2092 156 EMPINGHAM
CLIFFE ELIZABETH DAU 7 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE ELLEN DAU 10 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE ELLEN DAU 7 2093 385 MORCOTT
CLIFFE EMMA SERV 18 2093 285 CALDECOTT
CLIFFE FANNY WIFE 32 2093 374 MORCOTT
CLIFFE GEORGE SON 18 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE GEORGE SON 7 2093 369 MORCOTT
CLIFFE GEORGE SON 7 2094 40 KETTON
CLIFFE ISAAC HEAD 50 2094 47 KETTON
CLIFFE ISAAC SON 15 2094 47 KETTON
CLIFFE JACOB PSNR 44 2092 246 OAKHAM
CLIFFE JAMES SSON 20 2093 110 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE JOHN HEAD 33 2093 369 MORCOTT
CLIFFE JOHN SON 24 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE JOSEPH HEAD 62 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE JOSEPH SON 26 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE JOSEPH SSON 14 2093 110 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE LOUISA DAU 5 2093 370 MORCOTT
CLIFFE MARY WIFE 38 2094 47 KETTON
CLIFFE MARY WIFE 28 2093 369 MORCOTT
CLIFFE MARY DAU 6 2093 374 MORCOTT
CLIFFE MARY DAU 3 2093 370 MORCOTT
CLIFFE MARY ANN DAU 16 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE MARY JANE DAU 7MTHS 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE REBECKAH WIFE 51 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE REBECKAH DAU 22 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE SAMUEL HEAD 48 2093 380 MORCOTT
CLIFFE SAMUEL SON 8 2094 47 KETTON
CLIFFE SARAH WIFE 55 2093 385 MORCOTT
CLIFFE SARAH HEAD 36 2092 189 LYNDON
CLIFFE SARAH WIFE 23 2092 189 LYNDON
CLIFFE SARAH A DAU 5 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE THOMAS BROT 26 2092 189 LYNDON
CLIFFE THOMAS DICKENS SON 12 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE WILLIAM HEAD 54 2093 385 MORCOTT
CLIFFE WILLIAM SON 30 2093 408 WING
CLIFFE WILLIAM HEAD 29 2093 102 UPPINGHAM
CLIFFE WILLIAM SON 11 2094 47 KETTON
CLIFFE WILLIAM FRISBY SERV 18 2092 391 BRAUNSTON
© Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001.
MIKE.
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Hi Mike
Yikes - just a few of them you say?
Thank you so much - that will keep me off the streets for a while, won't it.
Now I can try and put more of the jigsaw together.
Cheers Sue