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Title: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: redcoat2 on Sunday 01 July 12 16:39 BST (UK)
Born Jamaica. Was at school in Clifton on 1861 Census. Any info please
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 01 July 12 17:12 BST (UK)
Can you give us any other details age etc.Maybe the census reference
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: Isobelruss on Sunday 01 July 12 17:18 BST (UK)
Theres an Owen Alexander Vidal 20 undergraduate of Oxford visiting in Clifton 1861 census he was born Worthing .Edward ans Anna Strickland are his hosts hes a proprietor of houses
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: suzard on Sunday 01 July 12 21:54 BST (UK)
Is this the census you refer to??

1861
4 & 5 Arlington Villas

Ellen G Brown Pupil 16 scholar b Jamaica
RG9 1728 27 4

Suz
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 02 July 12 13:13 BST (UK)
Ellen Georgina Vidal BROWN,
Baptised 14 Nov 1844,
Parish of St Thomas in the East of the County of Surrey, Jamaica
Parents GEORGE WILLIAM SAMUEL and ELLEN GEORGINA Brown

Other possble Sibling;
JANE MATILDA Brown, 08 March 1846, All Parishes, Jamaica to GEORGE/ELLEN

Source Familysearch.Org

Trish :)
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: trish1120 on Monday 02 July 12 13:35 BST (UK)
OK, just checking what you have redcoat2;
Ellen married David ROWE
Her Mother Ellen G has remarried by 1871 also.
RG10/1328/95/20

EDIT;
.......  4  Ellen Georgina Vidal  b: Oct 5, 1824 in Bariffe Hall, St. Mary's, Jamaica
..........  +Dr. Brown    m: Nov 27, 1843  d: Nov 12, 1844
..........  5  Ellen Georgina Brown  b: Oct 2, 1844
.............  +David Rowe    m: many children
.......  *2nd Husband of Ellen Georgina Vidal: 
..........  +Capt. Brain    m: 1845
..........  5  Florence F. Brain 
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: Seoras on Monday 02 July 12 13:48 BST (UK)
Arlington Villas are still there,just round the back from me.All old Georgian buildings.
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: redcoat2 on Monday 02 July 12 14:11 BST (UK)
Can you give us any other details age etc.Maybe the census reference
      No census ref. yet I'm afraid - she ws born Jamaica 2.10.1844 and her father, George Brown, an army surgeon, died just before she was born.  She would have been nearly 17at the 1961 census.  Her mother wouldn't allow her to be educated in Jamaica therefore the Clifton School.   Mother was a Vidal a big family in Jamaica and here at that time.   Many thanks for your input

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Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: redcoat2 on Monday 02 July 12 14:13 BST (UK)
Can you give us any other details age etc.Maybe the census reference
                                                           

Got the census info now thank you and much other info.  Very interesting and helpful.  Many thanks
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: Seoras on Monday 02 July 12 14:21 BST (UK)
Could she be related to Vice Admiral Alexander Thomas Emeric Vidal,he is buried not far from Arlington Villas and died at 13 Sion Hill Clifton,also only a short walk from Arlington Villas  in 1863.

Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: redcoat2 on Monday 02 July 12 14:46 BST (UK)
There are so many Vidals around here and in Jamaica.  We understood Ellen was here at school with Vidals as 'chaperones' so seems like a possible connection.   There were also a lot of Rowe connections with th Bristol area so likely wheels within wheels.   A sideline for he future maybe!
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: redcoat2 on Monday 02 July 12 14:58 BST (UK)
Could she be related to Vice Admiral Alexander Thomas Emeric Vidal,he is buried not far from Arlington Villas and died at 13 Sion Hill Clifton,also only a short walk from Arlington Villas  in 1863.



Thanks for the lovely picture of Arlington Villas - only just found it, I'm not much good with computers yet and a bit dim!!!
Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: redcoat2 on Monday 02 July 12 15:03 BST (UK)
Is this the census you refer to??

1861
4 & 5 Arlington Villas

Ellen G Brown Pupil 16 scholar b Jamaica
RG9 1728 27 4

Suz

Yes thanks.  We had heard so much about Ellen's education in this country but never knew where.

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Title: Re: Ellen Georgina Vidal Brown
Post by: Seoras on Monday 02 July 12 16:32 BST (UK)
Theres an Owen Alexander Vidal 20 undergraduate of Oxford visiting in Clifton 1861 census he was born Worthing .Edward ans Anna Strickland are his hosts hes a proprietor of houses

This was the vice admiral's son.