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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: firetail on Thursday 28 June 12 08:18 BST (UK)
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Information on Sarah Fitzpatrick,trans 1825 on ship(Brothers)from dublin ireland.
Where was,place of conviction,details of same,birth date & place of birth.
My ggg grandmother above Married,Edward Clements convict,paramatta nsw in1828.
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Hi
Australian Convict Index 1827
FITZPATRICK Sarah
Age = 22
Trial Place = Dublin
Birth Place = Co.Dublin
Status = Single
Ship = Brothers
State = NSW
Occupation = Town Servant
Also
NSW Convict Indents
FITZPATRICK Sarah
Can read and write
aged 22
Protestant
Single
Born Co. Dublin
Town Servant and Plain Cook
Offence = Stole Money
Tried in Dublin 25th Oct 1825
Sentenced to 7 years
No prior Convictions
5ft 2inches tall
Ruddy complextion
Brown hair and light brown eyes
Thomas RAINE Sydney... might be the person she was Indentured to
Karenlee
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Her Certificate of Freedom confirms some of this...
Certificate of Freedom
#32/1026
Dated 14th November 1832
Sarah FITZPATRICK
Ship = Brother
Master = MOTLEY
Year = 1827
Native Place = County Dublin
Trade or Calling = Servant
Offence = Stealing Money
Place of Trial = Dublin City
Date of Trial = 25th October 1825
Sentence = 7 years
Year of Birth = 1805
Height = 5 feet 1.5 inches
Complexion = Fresh
Hair = Dark Brown
Eyes = Grey
General remarks = Mole on the chest and another on right arm
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Do you have a death cert for Sarah ?
If she died in NSW after 1856, there should be one available for her. This should show names of both her parents and possibly father's occupation, which could help confirm, or rule out any Irish records.
Her place of birth of Co. Dublin as mentioned in those details posted by karenlee, covers quite a few different parishes... not all of which have records back to her estimated year of birth of 1803..
There are quite limited records on Transportation available here in Ireland, it's usually better to check Australian records for these details. The only mention of a Sarah Fitzpatrick I see on the Ireland/Australia Transportation data in the National Archives is from a 'List of convicts, male and female, in the Penitentiary House, Cork remaining after embarkation on Board the "Rowena".' The list is dated January 1826, and all it includes are names.
see : Introduction to Irish Records (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,442233.0.html)
My Ancestor came from Ireland - where do I start? (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,498742.0.html)
Shane
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Hi
I am researching Sarah Fitzpatrick and Edward Clements convicts and would be grateful for any information. Descendants are from their daughter Elizabeth Ann Clements born 1849.
Margot Reedy
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Hi
In regard to Sarah Fitzpatrick, due to her d/cert not having any reference to her, parents & actual living location in Dublin, re parish birth cert details, I would like to know of the best place in Dublin to find out over there, as I will be there on the 30/5/2013, Pm.
Regards firetail
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unfortunately you require at least some of those details mentioned earlier (names of parents or some details of sibling and/or a place of birth) to try to progress with a search for your Sarah's baptism - particularly due to the early date. While some of the surviving Church of Ireland records for Dublin city & county parishes go back to 1805 and earlier, others do not go back that far, or have not survived.
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some clues in the reply by above by Karenlee that could be important..
'Place of Trial = Dublin City'
'Protestant'
'Born Co. Dublin'
Co. Dublin while technically including the City, would usually suggest somewhere outside the city.
Protestant most likely refers to her being Church of Ireland, but could be one of the other Protestant denominations e.g. Presbyterian, Methodist etc. Many of the surviving Church of Ireland parish records are held by the Representative Church Body Library, Co. Dublin and some are in the National Archives, but without some further details on location for your Fitzpatricks it would be very time consuming to check the available county Dublin parishes. Even if possible matches were found it would be difficult to prove, or rule out, these without further location or family clues.
Might be worth checking a newspaper such as Freeman's Journal in case anything in mentioned on the the criminal proceedings. Details included on cases, if reported in the paper, were often very basic but worth double checking to make sure. I believe Freeman's is available through some Australian Libraries.