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Title: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Saturday 23 June 12 16:33 BST (UK)
Hi Can someone from Cleland help please.  My great grandfather Tom Tait had a pub near Cleland cross. I think in the 1930s and 40s.  There aren't many of my grandparents generation still around but no one can remember what is is called - apart from Tam Tait's pub.  Can anyone help please?
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Saturday 23 June 12 19:35 BST (UK)
The only pub near Cleland cross nowadays is Kelly's Bar, I'll ask around if it could have been Tait's previously.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Sunday 24 June 12 08:05 BST (UK)
Thank you. Il quiz my Mum again today but think that it might no longer be a pub.  She's well known for giving me duff information so I'll double check what she tells me.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: The Mc on Sunday 24 June 12 11:09 BST (UK)
This website mentions 2 closed pubs......

The Old Castle Bar 70 Main Street
Dalrymple House 9 Omoa Road


http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/areas/cleland/strathclyde/
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Sunday 24 June 12 11:18 BST (UK)
Thanks I'll look this up.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Sunday 24 June 12 17:43 BST (UK)
Hello,thanks for your help.  I have a bit more information.
The pub was on the corner of Main St and Station Road, on the opposite corner from Tambourini's chip shop. My Mum thinks that her grandparents has the pub in the late 1910s and possibly early 20s. The family story is that her gran lost the lease as she didn't open the pub as she chose to do that rather than lose her husband to the drink.  My Mum remembers the pub was a house when she was at school in the late 30s and early 40s, and thinks that it is no longer there.
 
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: The Mc on Sunday 24 June 12 19:19 BST (UK)
Hello,thanks for your help.  I have a bit more information.
The pub was on the corner of Main St and Station Road, on the opposite corner from Tambourini's chip shop. My Mum thinks that her grandparents has the pub in the late 1910s and possibly early 20s. The family story is that her gran lost the lease as she didn't open the pub as she chose to do that rather than lose her husband to the drink.  My Mum remembers the pub was a house when she was at school in the late 30s and early 40s, and thinks that it is no longer there.
 

I have just looked on Google street view and at that junction (now a mini roundabout) is the following......

What look like council houses and flats on 2 corners......
One corner has a bar called Kelly's Bar
The other corner is a small white (mainly) and black building which is a Chinese take away (the chip shop?) which is oddly called Richmond Inn. Is that a clue?

See the view here....

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0nz9/
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Sunday 24 June 12 19:58 BST (UK)
Just asked my brother (who is an expert on Cleland pubs!) and he called his brother-in-law, who is cleland born & bred.
You are right, Tait's Bar was at the corner of Station Rd & Main St and is now a block of flats.
Kelly's bar used to be the Old Castle Bar.
There is an old photgraph of Tait's, my brother will try to find a copy and I'll post it here.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Sunday 24 June 12 21:08 BST (UK)
That would be great thanks.  There are only a couple of my family still in Cleland and it would be lovely to be able to remind everyone of Tam's pub. He was such a character and important in our family story  Thanks so much for your help.  :)
K
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Friday 29 June 12 20:28 BST (UK)
A few pictures of old Cleland and its junior league football team from about 100 years ago. i will have to make 4 posts for this, sorry!
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Friday 29 June 12 20:30 BST (UK)
Same picture as before but with notations.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Friday 29 June 12 20:31 BST (UK)
Football team
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Friday 29 June 12 20:33 BST (UK)
Same football team, with some names.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: lud on Saturday 30 June 12 10:48 BST (UK)
Super Photos Lodger
Thanks for posting them.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Chesapek on Saturday 30 June 12 13:05 BST (UK)
Hi
Would anyone have any information on Bradys bar in Coatbridge around 1920/30s

thks
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Saturday 30 June 12 16:20 BST (UK)
Lodger, thanks very much for posting these.
Its great to be able to see what my Mum has described.  Mum described it as being a house when she was at Cleland School in the late 30s and early 40s and my Aunt said it was boarded up when she was at school in the mid to late 40s.  Do you think it was just known as Tait's pub? Now that I can see its location it will be easier for me to trace it at the records office in Motherwell. Would you please thank your brother for looking these out.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Saturday 30 June 12 16:22 BST (UK)
Oh and forgot to say thanks for the football team photos. Interesting to see Somerville in the team as that's a family name too. Another thing to quiz my mum on.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: LECT1143 on Tuesday 11 December 12 02:32 GMT (UK)
When I was a boy in Cleland the pub on the corner in the photos was called Duddy's and the shop that is now the take away was Peter Tamborini's chip shop the other two shops visible on the photo were Sam Reids bakery and John Keeveney's Paper shop, across from mth pub as you look up the main street was the "
Auld mens' rest hut and Thomas Browns gneral store which was later taken over by a pakistani family, the photographer in both cases would be standing somewhere in the vicinity of the Chapel Gates not far fromm the top of Chapel Street.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Saturday 25 January 14 16:02 GMT (UK)
LECT1143
Thanks- is the pub marked Tait's pub on the photo that you remember being called Duddy's? Thanks Kay
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: William Campbell on Friday 29 April 22 10:19 BST (UK)
In my youth this bar was never Kelly's Bar it was Duddy's pub one of three in the village the others were the Station Bar and the Dalrymple House there was also the Bellside but it was not strictly classed as being in Cleland, Duddy's was mainly RC while the Dalrymple and the Station were mainly Protestant.
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Lodger on Friday 29 April 22 15:06 BST (UK)
Update !!!!

Kelly's Bar is under new management and is now called Delaney's. All the football colours and paraphernalia have been removed and the new owners are trying very hard to make it "non-denominational". The owners of the Bellside should take a leaf from the Gallagher brothers book!
(The Gallagher's have named it "Delaney's" in memory of their late mother whose maiden name that was and not for any other reason.)
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Ian Nelson on Friday 29 April 22 19:22 BST (UK)
I believe the late, great musical artiste, Sidney Devine came from Cleland, cheers, Ian
Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: Rosinish on Saturday 30 April 22 04:12 BST (UK)
Apologies to Kay for taking up a space irrelevant to this thread  :-[

I believe the late, great musical artiste, Sidney Devine came from Cleland, cheers, Ian

Ian Nelson...

"Devine was born in Bellside, a settlement near the village of Cleland, North Lanarkshire, January 1940", he sadly passed away last year.

I was a big fan of Sidney Devine as a teenager & saw him live at Perth City Hall in the late 1970s.

Prior to Karaoke in pubs/clubs there would be sing-songs & one of my all time favourites (which I'd sing) was The Blackboard Of My Heart.

When my daughter was leaving primary school, I & a friend wrote a song to the tune of The Blackboard Of My Heart which was used as their 'Leaving Anthem' & continued for many years!

Annie







Title: Re: help to name a Pub in Cleland please
Post by: KaypH on Monday 02 May 22 12:50 BST (UK)
Thanks all. I’ll ask Mum and Aunt about Duddy’s pub. I hadn’t given it a thought about the pub being denominational.  I’ll ask about that too.
As an aside, my Mum remembers Sydney Devine singing at the farmers dances in the 1950s.