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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: glensmum on Thursday 21 June 12 02:11 BST (UK)
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Could some kind person look in the San Francisco newspapers for the obituary or anything related to Charles Weightman. I think there was mention of his death in The San Francisco Morning Call. He died on the 5th May !887.
He was a stage performer and his act was in a tank of water in which he "ate drank and smoked a pipe" underwater.
I have his grave site as Grave 11 Tier 57 but don't know which cemetery that could be. The Funeral Director was Halsted N.Gray & Co.
I would appreciate help with this man or advice as to where I should look.
Regards Olive
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Chas Weightman
Burial 05 May 1887
Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 41
Funeral Home: N. Gray & Co. Funeral Records
Funeral Home Place: San Francisco, San Francisco, California.
On line on familysearch.org
No cemetery given except for "San Francisco " as above.
No hard evidence yet but Grave 11 Tier 57 is a numbering system in the Lone Mountain Cemetery, San Francisco. Lone Mountain Cemetery graves were removed and reburied in the early 1900's primarily to Cypress Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery.
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The San Francisco public library does obituary look-ups for free. http://sfpl.org/index.php?pg=2000049301 Maybe you can explain what you're looking for & they can see if there's anything in another newspaper. Sometimes, funeral notices will be placed a day or two after the obituary and will note where the internment will be.
I know we have some posters who are familiar with that area, so maybe they will have an answer to your questions off the top of their heads.
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Thank you to the Posters who have responded. I have put in an Obituary request and added a note to tweak the interest of the receiver. Charles' stage life was quite interesting and I have enjoyed researching it. Hope his grave was saved if it was at Lone Mountain
Regards Olive
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Although Charles was buried in San Francisco he may not have died there. His name is not on the Death Registers of San Francisco.
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I wonder what that might mean. Here in New South Wales, I have known it to happen if there was an inquest into the death.On the page of the undertaker he is said to have died of phitusis. I thought that was pneumonia but have also been told it is TB Thank you for your interest. Search goes on
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Additional thread on the same person: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,603451.msg4529535.html#msg4529535
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Thank you for linking my posts on the two forums. I had thought to do that but as a beginner was still working it out.
regards Olive
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I checked to see if Charles Weightman had a will in England/Wales which some people overseas do have when they have some money left in England. He did not have an English will.
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Thank you for that. It perhaps helps with another poser. His wife who was Catherine Bowman[Kate Douglas Kerr an actress and elocution teacher] in1903 was reported to have been on her way to London as she had inherited a fortune.
"Miss Kate Douglas,an Australian actress, well known a few years back for the excellence of he Shakesperian work is on her way to London where she has inherited a fortune. Miss Douglas it is remembered was married to Mr. Charles Weightman "the Man Fish"
14 March 1903 The Daily News Perth W.A.
To my knowledge she wasn't ever in Western Australia,so expect this was picked up from another newspaper. The call for her to contact London was in the Brisbane Courier 25 February 1903.
The Mr. Kerr whose name she was using towards the end of her life is a mystery.
Regards glensmum
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My application to the San Francisco Library has been answered
The Daily Examiner
San Francisco
Wednesday May 4th 1887
Weightman-In this city, May3, Chas Weightman [professionally known as the Man Fish], a native of England, aged 41 years.
Friends and acquaintances are respectfully invited to attend the funeral to-morrow [Thursday] at 10 o'clock.a.m. from the undertaking parlors of Cowen, Porter and& co. funeral directors, No. 118 Geary street.
Search on
Regards glensmum
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Does this have any connection to the Weightman/Kerr question?
WEIGHTMAN.—At Cootamundra, N.S.W., June 29th, Corporal J. A. Weightman, No. 8 Co., 17th Battalion Infantry, dearly loved elder son of Mrs.Douglas Kerr.
Commonwealth War Graves Commission gives same date of death as the above newspaper article in the Brisbane Queenslander, published 10 July 1915. However the CWGC gives full name as John Arthur Weightman.
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Yes it does.
Charles Weightman was the father of John {my grandfather]
Catherine or Kate Douglas as she was known in the theatre was his mother. She started to use the name Mrs. Kate Douglas Kerr and on her death certificate 13.1.1927]her "other" son Alan George Douglas Kerr says she married Mr Kerr in New York.Alan says they had been married for 29 years but Alan was 33years old.
I have no evidence of her traveling to New York or having this child Alan.
Alan perhaps was the one who is on the WW2 Nominal Roll.
He was born in London 8. January 1894.
Perhaps he was a step son,possibly with a sister Hilda
I am getting confused with Kate and her life but will plow on. Thank you for your continued interest.
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According to his AIF records John Arthur Weightman was 33 years old when he died in 1915. Parents Charles Weightman and Kate Bowman. That if correct means he was born 1882. First time I have ever seen a death certificate in an army record. Seen a birth certificate for an under 18 year old in England who's father was well off and successfully got him back to England from France. When he reached 18 he was sent back and was killed.
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Hi, I have been following the Bowman family and found the following info which may be of use to you.
The Lorgnette (Melbourne) - Friday 10th June, 1887.
AMERICAN MEMS.
A San Francisco correspondent states that Charles Weightman (the man-fish) is dying of consumption in St. Mary's Hospital.
The Lorgnette (Melbourne) - Friday 8th July, 1887.
Charles Weightman (the man-fish), died at St. Mary's Hospital, San Francisco, on the 3rd May. His last days were made comfortable by Al. Hayman, of the Baldwin Theatre and formerly of Australia. The Company of the Baldwin Theatre) purchased a burial lot and had a neat headstone placed thereon. Al. Hayman generously volunteered to assume the entire obligation. The deceased's wife, (better known as Miss Kate Douglass), is now with Bland Holt's company in Sydney.
Hope this helps a little, cheers, Nipper.