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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: littlebootsy on Tuesday 19 June 12 11:34 BST (UK)
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Whilst looking to see if there were any records for my ancestors on the british newspaper archive... I came across an entry which I think is my 2nd Great Grandfather...
Monday 22 November 1886 - Shocking depravity at Castleford - On Saturday, Charles William Poskitt, 11 years of age of Castleford, was charged at Pontefract with mutilating a little girl named Whittington, on the 17th Sept. The girl still remains unable to walk, she hd to be carried into court. The particulars were of a most re-volting nature. The boy was remanded until Wednesday.
The Charles William Poskitt I have on my family tree was born Oct/Nov/Dec 1875 in Glasshoughton... Which would tie in with the age and location.
How would I find out if this was my Charles William Poskitt? I'd love to know what happened to this case and what happened to him as my Charles William Poskitt married aged 19 in 1894, but I can't find him on the 1891 census...
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1891 census
RG12
Piece 3764
Folio 74
Page 28
8 Wheldon Road, Castleford
William ROSKITT 1846 Glass Houghton
Agnes 1846 Micklefield
Mary E 1873 Castleford
Charles W 1875 Glass Houghton
John 1883 Allerton
Tony
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Cheers for that! Never thought to look for a different surname. Ooops!
I'd love to know if this is my Charles William though. What are the odds of there being two Charles William Poskitts aged 11 in Castleford at the same time?
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If he's out and about in Castleford, only 6 years after the attack, my guess is that it's not the same person.
Mike
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Hi
There is nothing on the Criminal Register 1791-1892 for a Charles William Poskitt
Margp
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is that the poskitt family that had the joinery works in airedale?
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This is my thinking also Mike, if I had found him in a work house or somewhere in 1891 then I'd be sure it's the same person. But this has filled me with doubt.
Also, i looked some more on the newspaper website and found this:
EXTRAORDINARY ASSAULT BY A LITTLE BOY. - At the West Riding Police Court, Pontefract, on Saturday, Charles William Poskitt, elevens years of age, son of Charles Poskitt, collier, Castleford was charged on warrant with an aggravated assault on Sarah Ellen Whittington, aged six, the daughter of Richard Whittington, collier, on September 17th. The prisoner threw the poor little girl down a stone heap and nipped such pieces from her body as to cause very dangerous illness and which still keeps her confined to her room. The prisoner was remanded till Wednesday to the workhouse for medical and other evidence.
My Charles William Poskitt's father was William Poskitt, not Charles... Another indication this might not be the same kid... Except I can't seem to find another Charles William Poskitt (b1875) with a father called Charles anywhere?!
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is that the poskitt family that had the joinery works in airedale?
I'm not sure, I don't know much about them to be honest :-\
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It sounds horrific and shows that there's nothing new about some of today's high profile cases.
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http://www.poskitts.com/companybackground.html
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http://www.poskitts.com/companybackground.html
Interesting. I'm not sure if this relates to the same Poskitt family as mine, I know Charles William had 4 daughters, so it's not likely to be that side, however he had brothers that could be related to that business. I might investigate!
It sounds horrific and shows that there's nothing new about some of today's high profile cases.
I know :( I was shocked when I read it. What a nasty little boy this person was. If it wasn't my relation, I wonder what became of him, and if it WAS my relation... I'm ashamed!
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... I'm ashamed!
Cousin TeaUrn found a distant relative who was sentenced to death for allegedly preferring the company of animals, putting it politely.
The jokes I've had to endure....
:o ::) ;) ;D
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... I'm ashamed!
Cousin TeaUrn found a distant relative who was sentenced to death for allegedly preferring the company of animals, putting it politely.
The jokes I've had to endure....
:o ::) ;) ;D
Haha! That's so funny! Lets hope those 'funny' genes have been filtered out over the years :o ;) :P
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What an interesting thread! Have you looked at the London Gazette? I know it's a long way from Pontefract but if you enter Charles Poskitt in the "with the exact phrase" box of advanced search a bankruptcy notice comes up which might be of interest to you.
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search
Do you know whether your Poskitts were woollen drapers?
Heather :)
p.s. I also searched for the birth of Sarah Ellen Whittington on FreeBMD from Mar 1879 to Dec 1881 without success but a phonetic search of surnames turns up
Sarah Ellen Whittingham born Pontefract March quarter of 1879 - could this be the poor girl involved?
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What an interesting thread! Have you looked at the London Gazette? I know it's a long way from Pontefract but if you enter Charles Poskitt in the "with the exact phrase" box of advanced search a bankruptcy notice comes up which might be of interest to you.
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/search
Do you know whether your Poskitts were woollen drapers?
Heather :)
p.s. I also searched for the birth of Sarah Ellen Whittington on FreeBMD from Mar 1879 to Dec 1881 without success but a phonetic search of surnames turns up
Sarah Ellen Whittingham born Pontefract March quarter of 1879 - could this be the poor girl involved?
Hi Heather
I don't think my Poskitts were woollen drapers, I did a search, the Charles Poskitt who was a woollen draper was born in 1833, married an Ann Jewitt, I think anyway.
They're probably related somehow though I reckon!
I'm still confused at who this Charles William Poskitt person is, I can't find any children for Charles and Ann, I thought that it may be them who had the Charles William that hurt this little girl.
As for that girl, it could well be. She was six when it happened, that would make her 7 by that birth date, but It's still a possibility!
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Hello,
as you say, it is difficult because there doesn't seem to be another candidate.
Free BMD has births:
September 1875
Charles William Poskitt Pontefract vol 9c page 127
December 1875
Charles Poskitt Tadcaster vol 9c page 778
1881 has your Charles W living in Tadcaster district (to complicate matters)
The one born in Tadcaster district is possibly this chap:
Charley Poskitt 5 yrs born Allerton Bywater living with mother and stepfather George and Jane Ellis. They are in Dewsbury area in 1881.
1871 has Jane's husband as Thomas Poskitt.
William was a collier and it may have been that the name Charles was written for the father's name by mistake.They are also living in Castleford by 1891. :-\
regards
heywood
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Of course, although it says he was charged with the offence, it doesn't mean that it ever came to trial, or that he was found guilty.
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http://www.poskitts.com/companybackground.html
I think they're related to the Poskitt's painters and decorators of Glebe Lane, Knottingley.
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There's a burial record for a Charles William Poskitt which I think will be yours, here:
http://www.wakefield.gov.uk/CommunityAndLiving/BereavementServices/GenealogySearches/BurialRegisterspre1986/PopUp.htm?page=051®ister=CASNE1939®desc=1939%20Register