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Hello,
My sister is named Celine. For the longest time I thought she was named after Seline, the Greek goddess of the moon (and supposedly Dad wooed Mom and asked her hand in marriage under a full moon). But now that I am researching the family genealogy, I have seen Seline as a man's name and Celina for a female. Can anyone tell me if Celine is 1) Polish or Ukrainian? 2) what does the name 'mean' or translate to? (i.e Francis is Frank).
Thank you!
-Robin
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Hi Robin,
It is an alternate form of Seline and is Greek. Celina/Selina also alternate forms.
other variations ; Celene, Celeen, Celinn, Celena, Celeena, Celenia, Cena, Celeena, Calena, Celina, Celinda, Celinka, Celinna, Celka, Celinna
Selene, Selini, Selenie, Seleny, Selie, Selin, Selinda, Selinia, Selinka, Sellina, Selyna, Selyne, Selynne, Sylina
:) mare
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I can't find any reference to male forms of the name, above are all feminine forms.
Added....
.... meaning according to wiki is 'heavenly' and Celeste is a related name.
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Another source, Celine as a girl's name is of Latin origin and the meaning of Celine is "heaven' from the word Caelia. Can also be a short form of Marceline.
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;D My mum was , and my daughter is Celestine. We call her Cess. for short. May be after celestial, as in the stars. My mum believed the NUNs gave her her name for some reason as she was actualy named Maria Jane Bergersen. ??? ??? ??? ???
Regards,
Carl.
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Could it have been her confirmation name, Carl :-\
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:) Could be, Mare, I don't know how the Church works :-X but i do know mum was married and lived her whole life i.e. car licence, pension, bank account and Will etc. As Marie Celestine Olsen.But... her birth cert. is Maria Jane Bergersen. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X Hope no law broken :P :
May be some one could explain, as it has be a bit of a mystery over the years,
Carl. ;) ;) ;)
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Hi All,
Celine is her given name. She was confirmed, but I don't know that name.
What would help is to know if other Poles and Ukrainians are named Celine/Seline/Celina, or is it a rather unique 'new' name? Sort of along the lines how some folks nowadays are spelling Michelle as "MeShell" to be different.... I did see in a thread about the Harach family (in 2010?) about a Celina Harach, which made me wonder... I thought my mom was being unique, but then Celine Dion came along... Is the name more prevalent in Canada amongst the immigrants from Poland, or is it just a name that has been around since the Greeks and maybe before?
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With your last question Robin, I just realised by checking on your profile for your whereabouts, I should have included a 'Welcome to RootsChat' with my post ... we're a global village here on this great site :D someone with more international knowledge may give you a response re usage of the name.
However just by putting the name and Poland into search it appears there was a Celine Borzecka also known as Blessed Celine Borzecka formerly of Poland who died in 1913 and honoured by Roman Catholicism which being a prominent religion there, may influence popularity of choice for naming girls perhaps.
Some names are universal and timeless though, think that may be one of them.
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Carl, it wouldn't be illegal to use another name of choice in the way your mother did. She may have preferred it to Jane, not as plain ;) or influenced by the nuns and being more heavenly :) ... or did she read Sir Arthur Conan Doyle :D imagine she would have had mention of the brigantine reference numerous times!
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;D ;D ;D That could be it.
Thanks.
Carl,
;D ;D ;D
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Mare, thank you. You must have a better search engine that I do. I have typed in Celine and haven't found any relation to Poland at all... This will help with the family history I am writing up for my family, mostly myself. My mother is dead, so I cannot ask her the reasoning behind all the names, but I guessed it would be either 1) a name of a relative or 2) just a name she liked. So, my sister Celine is either named after a saint or a relative (or both? :P), my sister Kathy is named after my father's mother and my father (Kathleen Frances), my brother is named after my father, and I was named after a bird. Seriously. No joking there.
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just for background on the name ...
it's not an very uncommon name in Ireland - I know 2 both born 1940s.
I looked at the familysearch site for Ireland
... 10 or 12 before 1926
... 400 - 450 (includes births and deaths so some doubling-up) between 1926 and 1958.
eadaoin