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Title: Unknown names in grave
Post by: taggg on Friday 15 June 12 14:45 BST (UK)
Hi

In my research of the Taggart family of Bellshill/ Cambusnethan i have come across details of some burials with names that at the moment have no connection to my tree.
see attachment


Any help appreciated

Regards

William
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: taggg on Friday 15 June 12 14:46 BST (UK)
ps

 i have no knowledge of the names Bowman and Monaghan.
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: AJ100 on Friday 15 June 12 15:48 BST (UK)
Just a suggestion - the 3 Taggarts died young, Bowman & Monahan are adult. Could either Bowman or Monahan be the names of the remarried parent? And possibly a brother or sister?
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: Lodger on Friday 15 June 12 17:00 BST (UK)
Married women were usually listed under their married names in burial registers of this period, could Elizabeth monaghan have Taggart as a maiden surname?
Could the Bowman have had a Taggart wife?
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: Pat in Dundee on Friday 15 June 12 17:54 BST (UK)
Is this a lair (grave) record - ie ONE grave? If it is, I would expect to eventually find some relationship. But I've had experience of a widow who sold her lair to another family - totally unconnected - before she left Scotland for South Africa!

For what its worth, the death record for Eliz Monaghen states she is married to Samuel Monaghen, coal miner; and her maiden surname is Wilson.

HTH
Pat
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: Roger The Hat on Friday 15 June 12 18:39 BST (UK)
I don't know if it's relevant, but my grandmother "shares" a grave in Cambridge with five other unrelated occupants. The information is from a card index, held locally.
I'm led to believe this was common for people who couldn't afford an exclusive plot.
In my case, it appears the the other bodies came from the University - possibly donated for research.

'Hat. 
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: Elise_CL on Friday 15 June 12 19:10 BST (UK)
It's possible it could be a 'Common Ground' grave or 'Paupers Grave' where it's shared with people they're not related too. Can't be certain though as have only just found out about them for myself today.  :-X
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: weste on Friday 15 June 12 19:47 BST (UK)
I 've got relatives buried with unrelated people. From what i can see there's about 6 people in the grave.
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: apanderson on Friday 15 June 12 20:38 BST (UK)
You'll notice that the 1st 2 children were buried at 7 feet, the next 2 at 6 feet then 2 adults, one at 5 feet and the last at 4 feet.

It would be strange if there was no relationship between the Bowmans and the Taggarts and I doubt very much if this would have been common ground/a paupers grave. Too much of a co-incidence as these burials were basically just wherever there happened to be 'space'.

Obviously adults were buried 'longways' in the lair, which was usually 3 feet x 7 feet, but children (if young/small enough) were buried 'across the way'.

A bit morbid, I know, but when you see stones with a long list of children, this burial 'method' goes some way in explaining how they were all 'fitted-in'.

Anne
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: taggg on Saturday 16 June 12 11:38 BST (UK)
Thanks for the replies,


The Lair was bought by David Taggart for his children John and Eliz W Taggart I have sorted the Monaghan issue thanks to Pat n Dundee, Elizabeth Wilson is the sister of Lily Stewart Wilson (Davids wife ) who married Samuel Monaghan( still to verify ).

still nothing on the Bowmans presumably John Bowman is the son of James Bowman just got to sort out if the mother/wife is Agnes or Jane.

Regards

William
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 17 June 12 09:16 BST (UK)
I had a similar problem, but mine was in Lincolnshire, it was a  Scrimshaw in a Luffman grave at Alford Lincs. Further esearch showed it was the Luffman's widow, buried for some unknown reason under her maiden name some 25 years after her late husband's death.
Title: Re: Unknown names in grave
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 05 July 12 15:32 BST (UK)
A separate thread has now been raised re: Bowman

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=605168.new;topicseen#new