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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: veloman4802 on Thursday 14 June 12 01:58 BST (UK)
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I have traced my ancestors to Barnard Beckham (born 1738 calculated from the Parish record of his death in 1798 in Aylesham) of Norfolk. Is anyone researching this family, and if so could perhaps suggest further lines of enquiry?
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Hi veloman,
Apologies if you've already seen this - it's a memorial inscription from St Michael church, Aylsham - looks like there was a family plot.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-12743-3248-32?cc=1824695&wc=6892627
Am I right in thinking that your Barnard/Bernard married a Susannah and had several children baptised in Aylsham?
Yorkslass
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Hello and thank you very much for your kind assistance. Yes this is my ancestor Barnard Beckham! We (my wife and I) were fortunate to spend a year in UK in 2004 and spent part of that time in Norfolk, doing some research on family. We actaully visited the parish church in Aylesham and located the headstones (another of the family was located there too). Unfortunately our search ahs come to an abrupt halt in that we just cannot seem to find any further details of Barnard. We are trying to find his birth record, but this seems exceedingly difficult.
thanks for your assistance. Much appreciated.
Regards,
Philip Bewley
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Hi Philip,
I was curious as to why I couldn't find a baptism in Aylsham, for the Elizabeth Beckham (daughter of Barnard and Susannah) who was mentioned on the MI as having died in 1779, aged 20.
Do you have this Elizabeth's baptism details? It might give some clues.
Do you know Susannah's maiden name?
Yorkslass
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have you looked in family search as the norfolk bmd,s registers are online and for alysham 1653-1739 and 1709-1754 , i did try looking at the first one this morning but they aren,t in the best of condition and a lot of the pages are fairly well worn and quite in decipherable but haven,t looked at the second register .
regards
trevor
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I too started looking at the Aylsham parish registers, but it's not easy.
This site - Norfolk Transcription Archive - has transcribed many of the Aylsham PR's.
Baptisms start from 1710, marriages from 1653 and burials from 1710 - most up to 1900.
I had a good look, but the Beckhams only seem to appear in Aylsham from the 1760's, so they must have been somewhere else.
http://www.doun.org/transcriptions/documents.php?register_id=1&district_id=1
Philip, do you have Barnard and Susanna's marriage? As far as I can see, they didn't marry in Aylsham.
Yorkslass
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Hi Trevor,
I do not have the record of Elizabeth's baptism, but do have a copyu of her burial record which I HAVE ATTACHED - cheers, pHILIP
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Hello again Trevor,
Unfortunately I do not have the marraige of Barnard and Susannah - you are probably correct in saying that they didn't marry in Aylesham. I did do a fairly comprehensive search of Aylesham records but turned up nothing. Although my research was done at the Norwich Records Centre using microfiche indexes and then taking copies of microfilmed documents. I could well have missed something. Which brings me to the question as to whether or not I ought to have checked other spellings for mis-transcription?
Thanks again,
Philip
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hi philip
it,s yorklass you need to thank for saying search else where other than aylsham but she is correct i did sometime back and found it best if you have a map of the area then start working outwards of all towns and villages it totally ruined the map with all the lines through places as i finished searching them ;D ;D
.regards
trevor
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Hi again,
Now I am confused!
The burial record shows Elizabeth was the daughter of Bernard and Elizabeth.
I thought it was Bernard and Susanna....
Yorkslass
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Freereg has an Elizabeth Beckham born to Barnard and Susan Beckham 20 Sep 1761 in Snettisham not so very near Aylsham, but may be worth while looking in that area. kaysii
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They were married in Snettisham 8 May 1861 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11558-100384-69?cc=1416598&wc=MMVP-4XK:1935736447
Her maiden name is Peachment. They are both of this parish, but doesn't necessarily mean either were born there.
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Baptisms for the 1730s in the Snettisham parish records are mostly missing and the ATs although more complete seem to have some years missing. Haven't found the relevant years in BTs, but only had cursory look.
It may be worth looking over a few years in the parish records to see if there were any other Beckham births or marriages prior to the presumed birth year in the parish. I also look on free reg to see where other Beckhams or the like may be living. There is the proviso that not all parish records are transcribed.
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Good find Kaysii. The names and dates certainly fit.
Using the same resources as you do, I found a baptism for a Bernard Beckham in Bawdeswell, October 6 1737, baptised by Benjamin and Elizabeth Beckham.
Names and dates seem right, and it's not too far from Aylsham - about 12 miles.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11781-9871-38?cc=1416598&wc=MMVP-SGH:525436590
Yorkslass
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A good find yourself Yorkslass.
I am intrigued by his first name. He spells it Barnard, it's either he writes it as he pronounces it or it is possibly a surname used as a first name. However I have found no Barnards married to Beckhams.
There is a Benjamin "Backham" from Aylsham marrying an Elizabeth Wells in Erpingham in 1792 and having a son Barnard Beckham baptised in Aylsham in 1798 and 1804. Benjamin is presumably the son of "Bernard" Beckham b in Aylsham about 1771
I have found some Peachments in Terrington St Clements, born to a Thomas Peachment who was married twice there and seems to have had several children, including an Elizabeth, but no Susan or Susanna.
kaysii
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Yes the burial record does show that Elizabeth as the daughter of Barnard and Elizabeth. We did a fairly comprehensive search and the opinion of those at the record office at the time was that this was possibly a recording error, for two reasons: 1. The death record matches the inscription on the tombstone in the Churchyard at Aylsham, 2. No other married Barnard Beckham existed in the records at that time. Seems like an idle moment on the part of the parish priest (maybe too much altar wine??). This could of course be entirely wrong. Thanks again
Philip
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Dear kaysii
Thank you for your information on the Peachment's. This is incredibly helpful - a new line of enquiry for me. At suggestion of Yorklass, I have now a map of parishes so can understand a little better the geography - I was amazed at the number of parishes in Norfolk!
Thanks much for this help
Philip ;) :)
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Dear Yorklass,
Thank you too for your very helpful work - I am most grateful to you and Kaysii for finding this information for me.
Kind regards
Philip :D