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Title: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: sasscham on Wednesday 13 June 12 18:13 BST (UK)
I need help tracing the parents of Thomas John Mulholland, born Belfast 7 September 1915.  His son John Walter Mulholland, born *, wants my help doing his family tree, but does not know the name of his grandparents, although thinks his grandmother's maiden name may have been Marr.   Any help would be greatly appreciated.

SallyEwin

* details of living person removed in accordance with Rootschat policy
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Wednesday 13 June 12 18:20 BST (UK)
A birth that seems to be likely to be Thomas John’s was registered in Belfast July – Sept 1915 Volume 1, page 388.
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 13 June 12 18:57 BST (UK)
Hi,
   25 Feb 1909 Thomas Mulholland married Jessica Marr in St. Annes Church of Ireland, Shankill, Belfast. Fathers' names were Ambrose Mulholland and John Marr. Both families are available on the 1901 census.

Regards
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: MaggieTag on Wednesday 13 June 12 19:32 BST (UK)
Hi,

This is Jessica and family in 1901

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Cromac/Eliza_Street/969167/

and Thomas and family in 1901

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls_Ward/Cavendish_Square/979327/

Margaret
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 13 June 12 19:46 BST (UK)
Hi,
   The Marrs were all born in Scotland so probably married there but on 17 Jan 1883 Ambrose Mulholland married Catherine McAleavey in Belfast, Urban 2 Roman Catholic Church.  The fathers' names were Michael Mulholland and Thomas McAleavey.

Regards
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 14 June 12 05:38 BST (UK)

Notwithstanding some inconsistency of detail, this looks like Ambrose Mulholland's widowed wife and three of the children in 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Little_Grosvenor_Street/182740/

And John and Jessie Marr in 1911:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Seymour_Street__part_of_/184863/

And Thomas Mulholland and wife Jessie in 1911 with two new additions:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Seymour_Row/184857/
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: gaffy on Thursday 14 June 12 06:24 BST (UK)

There is the following marriage record:

19 December 1890, at no. 11 Craigend Cottages, Liberton, according to the forms of the Church of Scotland, officiating Minister Gray, D.D.

JOHN MARR, 21 years old, bachelor, horsedealer, Liberton, father John Marr, horsedealer, mother Alice Telford.

JESSIE SANDERSON, 21 years old, spinster, domestic servant, father Thomas Sanderson (deceased), labourer, mother Jessie McLeod, formerly Sanderson, nee Campbell.

BTW, Liberton is a suburb of Edinburgh.
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: sasscham on Thursday 14 June 12 06:38 BST (UK)
Many thanks to you all for such comprehensive information.
My friend John tells me that he believes his grandparents, Thomas and Jessie, were killed when his father Thomas John, was four years old, aprroximately 1919 and that a sister went to live with family/carers.  This is the limit to the information we have.
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: MaggieTag on Thursday 14 June 12 20:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

The Belfast City Council searchable burials database has the following on John and Jessie Marr

Name of deceased    Jessie Marr
(*)

Name of deceased    John Marr
(*)

Margaret

(*) Moderator Note: cut & paste details from website removed- please use link below to search for the information- if you search for Jessie Marr first then click on link for grave section and number John Marr is easily found

http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialrecords/search.asp
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: sasscham on Friday 15 June 12 05:13 BST (UK)
Thank you for the information Margaret.  Althought it was removed I did see the detail last night, but today have followed the link and taken details.  The real problem is finding Jessie's daughter, Jessie Mulholland, born 1882, and her husband, Thomas Mulholland, born 1890, who were the grandparemts of my friend John.   The only information he has was that the were Killed (?) when his father was about four (1919ish).  Could this have been anything to do with the troubles?  I have searched on the link you gave but couldn't find anything.
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: chanceychelsey on Monday 01 April 13 00:34 BST (UK)
Can anyone suggest a reasonabley priced site to get a copy of:
Death registration
Thomas Mulholland
birth about 1890
date of registration Oct-Nov-Dec 1921
Belfast, Ireland
Vol 1
Page 161

and can it be requested online?
Thanks
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 05 April 13 00:10 BST (UK)
Go to the GRO Roscommon website: www.groireland.ie/  Download the application form you need, and complete with the information you have, including the location, year, quarter (if one is shown), Volume & page number. Put that information on the lines for date and place of the event etc. Don’t worry if you have to leave some boxes blank, eg PPS number. Be sure to tick the box marked photocopy, if that suits you, as it’s cheaper. You then either fax or post the form off (there is no e-mail option for certs pre 1.1.1922). Their turnaround time is 7 to 10 days plus however long the post takes. Should cost €4.
Title: Re: Thomas John Mulholland
Post by: chanceychelsey on Friday 05 April 13 04:14 BST (UK)
Thanks for that information.  I wasn't too happy with E20 which is about $30.00 of ours!!!