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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: Telfordmoz on Monday 11 June 12 08:10 BST (UK)
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I am looking for evidence of the service in The Canadian Army (during WWI), of Albert John Sidwell DAVIS. Albert was born in Bristol, Gloucestershire in 15 March 1897. The family story is that 'Jack' joined the Horse Drawn Artillery and was gassed at the Somme. The pic's below are of Jack.
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Hi Telfordmoz
this must be him but the date of birth and place is different ???
Canada, Soldiers of the First World War
Albert John Sidwell Davis
Birth 5 Mar 1895 Birmingham, England
father next of kin Albert Davis
Regiment No 175
Jackie
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he didn't get gassed in ww1 he died in Staffordshire ???
Albert J S Davis
born abt 1897
Apr-May-Jun 1961
Resisted in Lichfield Staffordshire
Volume 9b
Page 172
there is a will too
Probate :)
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Davis Albert John Sidwell lived at 66 Rosmary Hill Road Streerly Staffordshire died 15th April left 12516 pounds to wife Nellie Davis
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Arthur J S Davis married Nellie Griffin
Apr-May-Jun 1923
Birmingham, Warwickshire
Volume 6d
Page 690
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he didn't get gassed in ww1 he died in Staffordshire ???
Most men who were gassed survived to fight on.
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Albert John Davis, born 1897, joined the British army, 2nd June 1915, Royal Field Artillery and was discharged on the 23 June 1916 as unfit for service.
Albert John Sidwell Davis, b 1895 joined the Canadian unit in 1914.
Regards
Malky
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Albert attested at Valcartier on 16 Sep 1914 - attestation paper online:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc002/282206a.gif&id_nbr=332584
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Hi
I have found a Canadian Army Record
Albert John Sidwell Davis
D O B. 5 March 1895
Born Birmingham England
Father Albert Davis
Reg No 175
I have also found other records for a Albert John Sidwell Davis which contradicts the above information, there may be 2 Alberts with the same name ???????
I need to investigate further, do have any more information on him, parents, wife , children ect
Margp
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Albert John Sidwell Davis
Born 15 Mar 1897 was christened on the 4 Apr 1897 at Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Parents Albert Davis and Frances Catherine
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Has anyone actually found the 1895 Birmingham birth for Albert John Sidwell Davis??
Regards
Malky
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Albert John S Davis
Apr-May-Jun 1897
Bristol, Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume 6a
Page 32
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Well it looks like that there is only one Albert John Sidwell Davis, he just did not know his DOB or where he was born, par for the course in genealogy.
Margp
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Thanks to everyone for you help (somewhat confusing), so far. Firstly 'Jack' suffered with chronic breathing problem during his life, so he did survive the gassing. I have his short birth cert, that shows his d.o.b. as 1897. Jack did die in Staffordshire on 15 Apr 1961, but there was no will as his wife Nellie had to go through probate at Birmingham, in june 1961, to inherit his estate of £12,516.
I have previously looked at the Field Artillery record for Albert John DAVIS, but that is the wrong one, as the next if kin indicates a mother (of the wrong name) and his was deceased. The information about him joining the Canadian Regiment No. 175 in 1914 is useful, but although he moved to the Birmingham area when very young, he was born in Gloucestershire. The information about Albert DAVIS and Frances Catherine KINGSFORD being his parents are correct. I'll check out the possible attestation paper thanks.
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HI Telfordmoz
I agree something is not right with the Albert John DAVIS as I two noticed his next of kin is not his mother Frances Catherine
but I have just been looking at a tree on line and it mentions that he went to Canada because his mother died and his father had remarried :-\
he went to live with his Aunt Jessie
I was just about to look for a marriage for his father and a death for his mother
it may help to prove if it is him or not
as for Canada ww1 service record it does mention he had previously severed
give me a min and I will see if I can find anything :)
Sorry I miss understood when you mentioned gassing as he had died
my mistake :-[
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sorry I should have asked
do you no about his father remarrying and death of his mother ???
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death for
Frances Catherine Davis
born abt 1877
Oct-Nov-Dec 1898
Solihull Warwickshire
Volume 6d
Page 347
would that be her ???
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Hi
If you compare both the English and the Canadian Army records, the description differs one has brown eyes and brown hair, and the other as blue eyes and fair hair.
Margp
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from the Canadian ww1 record
it states have you served in any military force etc etc answer
2 ?lars 9th Batti? C.F.A
???
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do you no when he arrived in Canada ?
or who Aunt Jessie is ???
also a second marriage for his father ?
and what year was his father born ?
on the tree I have mention it says he left for Canada after his father remarried
might help to narrow down when he has served before
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2 years 9th Battery Canadian Field Artillery
You could send for copy of records to rule him out should have more family stuff in it?
Ady
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In the 1911 census for Erdington, Warwickshire, there is a 14 year old Albert Davis, born in Bristol, living with his aunt, an Emma Wernick.
Regards
Malky
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here his parents marriage
Albert Davis married Frances Catherine Kingsford
Jul-Aug-Sep 1895
Barton Regis Gloucestershire
Volume 6a
Page 317
good find Malky :)
I wonder if we can connect all the dots ???
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Hi
"but there was no will as his wife Nellie had to go through probate at Birmingham, in june 1961, to inherit his estate of £12,516."
Any thing over the value of £5.000 pounds as to go to Probate whether there is a Will or not
Margp
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have modified reply 2
Will to Probate :)
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Just to throw this in theres an Albert John Davis born c1897 coming to UK from Montreal in 1919 address given as Handsworth age 22.(Ancestry immigration lists) Traveller.He is English not Canadian.
Ady
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Hi
1901 Census living at Rectory Rd Birmingham
Emma Wernick b 1855 Birmingham
Nora Wernick b 1884 London Daughter
Albert Wernick b 1897 Bristol Son
I am not sure this is relevant but on the same page living at Rectory Rd is
Henry Sidwell b 1875 Birmingham
Clara Sidwell b 1873 Yorkshire
Lester Sidwell b 1896 Birmingham
Lavina Sidwell b 1898 Birmingham
Mabel Sidwell b 1899 Birmingham
Florence Sidwell b 1900 Birmingham
Margp
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Thanks again everyone.
I wasn't aware of the Probate rule i.e. £5k+ for wills. I'll have a look for his will.
I know that Albert John(jack) Sidwell DAVIS made a number of trips back to Canada, over the years, so I'l take a look for the record that you've found.
Thinking about the issue of Q10 on the Canadian Attestation doc. This must have been a Canadian militia that he belonged to, before signing for the Canadian Expeditionary Forces.
Maurice Brookes
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Hi Maurice
You can order the Will from the following link
http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills
Margp
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http://www.torontogunners.org/7TorRCA/unit%20info/unit%20history%20by%20Lt%20Alex%20Camp.pdf
Bit of info on 9th Batt CFA
Ady
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Ady,
Thanks for this fantastic resource. Just had a quick scan though and it will be a big help.
Maurice
http://www.torontogunners.org/7TorRCA/unit%20info/unit%20history%20by%20Lt%20Alex%20Camp.pdf
Bit of info on 9th Batt CFA
Ady