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Here is the earliest Gillespie family I have in the Stirlingshire/Lanarkshire area. I would love to find descendants of all the children of Robert and his unknown first wife, and of Robert and his second wife Jean/Jane Melrose.
Descendants of Robert GILLESPIE - 22 Nov 2001
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Robert GILLESPIE was born about 1789 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He died on 2 Apr 1868 in Falkirk Poor House, Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He was a Mason/journeyman in Lanarkshire, SCT. He was widower before marriage to Jean Melrose. ******LOOKING FOR THIS ROBERT'S PARENTS *******
Robert GILLESPIE was married to Mrs. GILLESPIE **** NEED HER NAME****about 1817 in either the Glasgow or Falkirk areas of Scotland. Robert GILLESPIE and Mrs. GILLESPIE had the following children:
1.1. Janet GILLESPIE was born in 1817 in SCT. She resided in 1864 in USA.
1.2. Alexander GILLESPIE was born in 1821 in SCT. He was a Laborer in 1864 in SCT. He was 3 children in 1864 in SCT.
1.3. Margaret GILLESPIE was born in 1823 in SCT. She resided in 1864 in Australia.
1.4. Millar/Miller GILLESPIE was born in 1826 in SCT. He was a Soldier in 1864 in SCT.
1.5. David GILLESPIE was born in 1830 in SCT. He was a Sailor in 1864 in SCT.
Robert GILLESPIE was married to Jane/Jean MELROSE on 16 May 1842 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. Jane/Jean MELROSE was born about 1817 in Edinburgh, Midlothian, SCT. She was a Letter Carrier in 1881 in Dennyloanhead, Stirlingshire, SCT. She died on 4 Feb 1900 in Lorns Buildings, Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. The cause of death was senile decay on 4 Feb 1900 in Lorns Buildings, Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. Robert GILLESPIE and Jane/Jean MELROSE had the following children:
1.1. Catherine GILLESPIE resided with her husband at home of Agnes Dewar in 181 in Glosgowin, SCT. She was born on 16 May 1842 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. She was christened on 12 Mar 1843 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. She was a domestic servant in 1863 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. She applied for poor relief in 1892 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCT. She resided at 13 Renfrew Lane in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT.
Catherine GILLESPIE was married to James Young PHILLIPS on 16 Dec 1863 in Monteith Row, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCT. James Young PHILLIPS was born about 1837. He resided at 44 Renfrew Lane in 1863 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. He was a joiner in 1863 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT.
1.2. John GILLESPIE was born on 21 Jun 1845 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He was christened on 27 Jul 1845 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He was an Iron Moulder Journeyman in 1870 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. He resided in 1881 in Denny, Stirlingshire, SCT. He died on 5 Dec 1915 in Lorns Buildings, Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. His cause of death was carcinoma of the liver-jaundice in Lorns Buildings, Larbert, Stirling, Scotland.
John GILLESPIE was married to Margaret WOOLER on 26 Aug 1870 in 21 Abbotsford Pl. Glasgow, SCT. Margaret WOOLER resided 35 Hill St. in 1870 in Anderston, Glasgow, SCT. She was a Cotton Factory Winder in 1870 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, SCT. John GILLESPIE and Margaret WOOLER had the following children:
1.2.1. Robert GILLESPIE was born on 15 Apr 1871 in 24 John St. Coatsdyke, Greenock,SCT.
1.2.2. John Fleming GILLESPIE was born on 13 Mar 1874 in 40 Arthur St, Greenock, SCT.
1.2.3. Frederick GILLESPIE.
1.3. Agnes GILLESPIE was born on 25 Nov 1847 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. She was christened on 9 Jan 1848 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. She was a Millworker in 1864 in SCT.
1.4. James GILLESPIE was born on 4 Nov 1857 in Falkirk, Stirlingshire, SCT. He was an Iron moulder journeyman in 1882 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. He resided at 370 Cumberland, Glasgow, SCT in 1882 in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. He resided at Stewartfield Pl. in Feb 1900 in Larbert, Stirling, Scotland. He died on 18 Jan 1903 in Stewartfield Place, Larbert, Stirlingshire, SCT. He resided at 370 Cumberland St. at time of marriage in Glasgow, Dist. of Gorbals, Lanarkshire, SCT. His cause of death was gastric cancer, cardiac failure.
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Gayle,it dosen't give the name on the census record so don't know how you'll find it, but it is in falkirk i can tell you that. Will see if i can send it to you from ancestry as i have the others.
T.(or perhaps i should call myself mark as i think you know who i am now).
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lol..yeah I figured that out. ...snicker... ;)
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If you trace the death records of the children of his first wife you should get her name
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Do you know who agnes married as after 1855 it is easier to search in scotland and she would have married after this date given her birth.
T.
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There's the marriage of Robert Gillespie to Jean Cherry 14 Aug 1814 in Falkirk on familysearch could this be your missing 1st wife?
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According to his petition to Falkirk Poorhouse, Robert and his unknown first wife had :
Janet abt 1817, who resides in USA 1864
Alexander b. abt 1821 who in 1864 is a laborer with 3 children
Margaret b abt 1923 who is in Australia in 1864
Miller/Millar b. abt 1829 who is a soldier in 1864
David b abt 1831 who is a sailor in 1864.
When Robert Gillespie marries Jean Melrose in 1842 ( who has a daughter named Janet Moncrieff b. abt 1837)
he then has all the children in this second family that I DO have info on. Just not the first family :-( and in this family my grandfather James Gillespie b. 1857 marries Mary Duncan of Muirhouses, Linlithgowshire.
If I knew more about the children of the first marriage, I might be able to find more on their father, but since I don't know their mother's name is a slow go to figure out. Somewhere a long the line I HAVE to hook up with the other Gillespie families in Falkirk!
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P. S. just for the record, I found him on the 1841 census and he has been listed as Gillispie and Gellispie
which I hadn't known.
I could die a happy person if I could figure this out. I'm sure you all feel the same about your lines too!
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Try looking at death records for Alexander, Millar or David and they should contain their mother's name
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Is this the entry for 1841?
Piece: SCT1841/479 Place: Falkirk -Stirlingshire Enumeration District: 6
Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Falkirk Burgh
Folio: 0 Page: 2
Address: Vicar Loan, West Side
GILLESPIE Margaret F 75
GILLESPIE Robert M 45 Journeyman Mason
GILLESPIE James M 15 Agricultural Servant
GILLESPIE David M 10 Agricultural Servant
GILLESPIE Uillan M 12 Farm Servant f'name maybe Hillan [I presume Millar?]
If so Roberts mother is Margaret, as she is also on the record, but we have a James unaccounted for in list of children's names unless he had died before Robert entered the Poor House?
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Found out some information about some Mary Duncan's in a related tree to mine on Genes Reunited but don't know if these are yours.
1. Mary Duncan 1802-1888 Marries James Drysdale 1800-1881.
2.Mary Duncan 1829 Single, Father John Duncan Born 1803 Mother Sarah Hynd Born 1797.
3. Mary Duncan Born 15/11/189 in Tillicoultry Married George Sharp in 1914, in Tillicoultry, Father Richard Duncan Born 1864- Died 1933 Mother Christina Sneddon Born 1863- Died 1923
4. Mary Duncan 1856 Father Andrew Duncan Born 1816 Mother Mary Sharp Born 1819
5. Mary Ferguson Duncan 1868 Father Thomas Duncan Born 1838 . Mother Euphemia Beveridge Born 1842 I think.
6. Mary Duncan 1836 Father Thomas Duncan No birth date Mother Mary Ferguson again no birth date.
Do any of these sound like your Mary Duncan,our family lines.?
T.
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1.3. Margaret GILLESPIE was born in 1823 in SCT. She resided in 1864 in Australia.
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]Hi, do you know anything else about Margaret Gillespie? Where exactly was she living in Australia in 1864? Did Margaret marry or have any children?[/color]
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Unfortunately I don't. :( I know nothing of Robert's first children with his first unknown wife, except, that according to an 1864 poor relief document he states that :
1. daughter Janet in USA in 1864
2. son Alexander is a laborer and has 3 children in SCT in 1864
3. Margaret is is Australia in 1864
4. Millar is a soldier
5. David is a sailor
Wish I had more to offer. Still searching.
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His last child, son James, that Robert had with Jane Melrose in 1857 is my ggrandfather. Don't know anything about one listed on this 1841 cens :(
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James Gillespie b. 1857 married Mary Duncan. All of their children carry the middle name of Melrose (James mother) or Duncan except their second to last child born 1895 in Denny. They named her
Katie Smith Gillespie. She died a year after her birth. I realize that sometimes parents will give the
middle name of someone they wish to honor, but since I don't have birth cert on this child, I wonder if
the Smith name might have been a grandparents last name.
So tantalizing....
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Gayle, found something when looking through some stuff i had. don't know if this is useful but thought it's worth looking at.
see below.
Mary Duncan Gillespie
Ontario Births, 1869-1912
spouse: Alexander Lockhart
child: Charles Melrose Lockhart
name: Charles Melrose Lockhart
event: Birth
event date: 03 May 1911
event place: Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario
gender: Male
father: Alexander Lockhart
mother: Mary Duncan Gillespie
registration year: 1911
registration number: 055443
digital folder number: 4530268
T.
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p.s. something else i had.not sure if this is correct but does this sound like david.?
GILLESPIE, DAVID (d 1862): was described as a neutral tailor in St Andrews when he was adm to the Tailor Incorp, 24 Aug 1805, "in consequence of the authority of the Convener's Court; served as Deacon in 1810-12; Pigot (1825 and 1837) lists him in South Street, but by 1852 he had moved to Castle Street; app: Alexander Lorimer (1807); John Wood (1807); David Patie (1814); Alexander Melville (1820); he was known locally as the "Convener," for he was twice Convener of the Incorporated Trades (latterly, 1835-47), and, being the last person to hold that office, was allowed to keep the gold medal, the property of the Trades, which was got up in c 1822 at a cost of #32; was an active and energetic politician of the Liberal Party, and served on the Town Council for 2 periods before the Reform Act, and also from 1846-56; he gave up business around 1856, and went to live with a married daughter at Craigend Parish, Dunbarney, Perthshire, where he died Dec 3 1862; m 1806 Helen Aikman, and had 3 sons and 6 daughters; his yst son, Captain David Gillespie (d Feb 13 1873 aged 48), was a master mariner and emigrated to Victoria, Australia, in 1865
T.
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I looked back through my binders and I was indeed in touch with Mr. Robert Stewart re the Gillespie, Duncan lines in 2000. One of his notes to he he states" I have already sent you Robert (Robert Hutton Gillespie) and his sister Ann Cooper's deaths. If only something could be found abouth their parents William Gillespie and Elizabeth Hutton".
Wanted that noted here for future links to anyone on here.
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1881 census 2 Northumberland Place, Edinlburgsays Ann Cooper, Head Widow 80 rubber Formerly Stirling Falkirk
Elizabeth Cooper, daug Unm 45 Dressmaker Edinburgh (Blind)
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Mark, the Undertaker, has found my needle in the haystack.
My earliest Robert Gillespie born abt 1789-1796 in Falkirk, was the son of Robert Gillespie and Margaret/Mary Millar. They married in Falkirk about 1788 and Margaret was originally of the Carriden parish and child of Robert Miller and Anne Alexander. That is why Margaret shows up living with Robert in the 1841 Scottish census. She states on her 1852 poor relief application that her husband Robert died about 18 years earlier.
She has a (1) daughter, Catherine who marries Robert Smith and has Michael, Robert, Elizabeth, Margaret, Catherine, Adam and Alexander Smith. The last 2 are "writers" in Falkirk.
She has (2) daughter, Agnes born abt 1792 who marries a Mr. Stewart and immigrates to America.
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Gayle,finally found my tree stuff that was trying to send via scanner at the library.
so agnes gillespie lynn my grandma has mary catherine loney as her mother born 1890 denny stirlingshire who died on 18th january 1963. Her, mary catherine loney's, mother was Agnes Gillespie born 24 june 1857 in bannockburn stirlingshire her father was robert gillespies born on 04 the june 1821 in alloa clackmannanshire,My robert gillespie, who married Elizabeth Paterson, who was born on 04th june 1826, in strathblane stirlingshire. Robert's father was David Gillespie born on 23rd January 1796 in Alloa Clackmannanshire who married Agnes Gillespie. born about 1790 in Tillicoultry Clackmannanshire. they married on 24/7th June 1819 in Clackmannanshire. Think the link may either be through David's brother's and sisters or Agnes's (1790) Family or even possibly through the brother and sisters of Robert Gillespie (1821) but no idea where. However have new family information to give you as David(1796)'s Father was a Robert Gillespie born in 1756 in Alloa who married a Jean Fyfe born in 1760 in Alloa they married in 1781 on 29/09/1781 in Alloa. Robert and Jean's Children was David born 23 January 1796 in Alloa,Robert (1821)'s father,Robert Gillespie 22 September 1782 born in Alloa,John Gillespie born 14th July 1784 in Alloa,Robert Gillespie born 23rd February 1786 in Alloa, Margaret Gillespie born on 19 June 1789 in Alloa, Jean Gillespie born on 20th January 1792 in Alloa,Margaret Gillespie born 3rd September 1793 Alloa and Alexander Gillespie born 19th August 1798 Alloa. Think Robert Gillespie(1821)'s may have had a sister born on 22nd April 1823 in Clackmannan and think he may also have had a brother called William some time around the 1820's.
Any Link.?
Mark.