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Title: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Monday 04 June 12 13:36 BST (UK)
I am looking to find Simon Draper's (born 1777 in Gisleham) parents. I believe they were Hannah and Simon but I can't find where they came from before having Simon in Gisleham! Any help would be gratefully received :-)
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: t mo on Monday 04 June 12 20:24 BST (UK)
hi and welcome to rootschat
all i can find is the parents as you say simon and hannah ,found this on family search .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Tuesday 05 June 12 10:49 BST (UK)
Many thanks Trevor. Just can't seem to get any further back than this. Thanks again,
Regards,
Wendy
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 05 June 12 10:59 BST (UK)
I had look around yesterday for your Simon also with little luck.
From memory there was one born c 1755, Huntingdonshire on Familysearch but I couldnt find a Marriage to a Hannah c 1775 anywhere or any other Children to a Simon/Hannah.
There is a possibility that Hannah may also been known as Ann so maybe there are other Children ubder Simon/Ann.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Tuesday 05 June 12 17:40 BST (UK)
I also found the Simon from Huntingdonshire but sadly have no way of connecting it to the other Drapers at present. I will keep up the search.
Thankyou all for your help.
Regards,
Wendy
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: annes on Thursday 07 June 12 14:53 BST (UK)
Taken from Gisleham parish register.

Simon base son of Hannah Draper and Simon (blank)
Baptised October 27th 1777



The Gisleham parish register has been transcribed and indexed at the SRO and there was no other Draper indexed in the baptisms, marriages or burials.

I also checked nearby parishes of Carlton Colville, Kessingland, Rushmere, Mutford and Pakefield but no possible baptisms for Hannah Draper ~1757 or a marriage >1777.
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Thursday 07 June 12 15:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Annes, it is proving a mystery! Have been round the cemetries in that area but nothing found.
Wendy
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: musictrish on Thursday 07 June 12 16:15 BST (UK)
Hi Have you looked under the name DIAPER. I have Diapers from Middlesex in my tree and they are sometimes shown as DRAPER. Just a thought.
musictrish
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: suffolk*sue on Friday 08 June 12 07:15 BST (UK)
Boyds marriage index has the following marriage.

Thomas Newell
Hannah Draper
1780
St. Peter, Ipswich.
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Friday 08 June 12 15:29 BST (UK)
Thankyou                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I haven't tried Diaper for this particular Simon, so will give it a go.
        I will check the Ipswich St Peter connection as I'm in Ipswich myself! It could just be a clue!

Thanks everybody,
Wendy
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Friday 08 June 12 15:30 BST (UK)
Ps. Computer is having a funny moment hence the strange layout of the last message :)
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: WADG on Tuesday 12 November 13 22:07 GMT (UK)
Simon Draper 1777 was my great great great grandfather, all the evidence looks like he was illegitimate, I have recently visited the grave of Robert his son, at St Marys Burgh St Peter, and Jerimiah his grandson, and Walter his greatgrandson at St Micheals Oulton.
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Wednesday 13 November 13 08:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the info. I will have to work out the relationship to me :) I will do a bit more research and get back to you.
Wendy
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: WADG on Wednesday 13 November 13 09:20 GMT (UK)
A lady that  have been in touch with via Genes Reunited called Patricia, went to Norwich record office and found this out..........

Simon was a farm labourer, born in Gisleham in Suffolk in 1777 and baptised on the 27th October of that year.  The baptismal entry in the Parish Register records that he was the base born son of Hannah Draper and Simon, the name “Simon” being followed by a very clear blank.  In the Gisleham Parish Overseers Book (Norwich R O PD115/24) it’s recorded that on 16th October 1777 the parish paid 3s to carry a Simon Carver to the Justice.  A further 2s was then paid to carry him to the House of Industry.  This is a tantalising reference and may well point to Simon Carver’s refusing to acknowledge his paternity of Hannah’s child.  He was a local boy, the son of parents who married in Gisleham.  He himself was born in the nearby village of Uggeshall in 1749 and was therefore 28 years’ old when Hannah gave birth.  Gisleham stands on the edge of the arable land of the North East Suffolk coastal plain, less than a mile south of the outer environs of Lowestoft.

I am going to the Lowestoft record office very soon to see if I add any more to it

Charmaine
Title: Re: Simon Draper
Post by: Wendi666 on Thursday 14 November 13 08:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you so much Charmaine.
Wendy