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Title: Help in dating this lovely lady, please.. COMPLETED
Post by: tilly56 on Saturday 02 June 12 10:40 BST (UK)
I would be very grateful for help in dating this photo please.  It is on very thick cardstock.

With many thanks

Tilly
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Post by: Wiggy on Saturday 02 June 12 11:17 BST (UK)
Off to play Tennis??   ;)   Clothes look wrong but shoes look right!!   ;D

Going to take a guess at Edwardian period.    Hope I'm not too far off.     

Wiggy   :)
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Post by: tilly56 on Saturday 02 June 12 15:31 BST (UK)
Hi Wiggy,

Can't see her winning Wimbledon in that outfit.... is that a box of tennis balls she's holding ???

I thought she might be Edwardian, so you have confirmed what I thought!

Many thanks for your help

Tilly
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Post by: chinakay on Saturday 02 June 12 18:50 BST (UK)
About 1905ish by me.

Cheers,
China
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Post by: maria087 on Saturday 02 June 12 19:10 BST (UK)
From a google search: Studio operated 1888-1932....
Marshall, Charles

Born 1858. Died 1943.
Biography

Marshall, Charles
Born in Barnes 1858.
Md Eleanor (b Liverpool 1858).
2 sons & 1 daughter.
STUDIOS: 1. 21 Cambridge Road, King Street, Hammersmith 1888 - 1932.
2. 294 King Street, Hammersmith 1904 - 1907.
1881: photographer & artist living in Tranmere, Birkenhead.
In Ealing 1901.
Bill of sale to Land Mortgage Banking Society August 19 1908 £40.
Died in Hammersmith 1943.
Occupations

Photographer [List all] 1881
Artist [List all] 1881
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Post by: tilly56 on Saturday 02 June 12 20:27 BST (UK)
Hello Maria and China

Thank you very much for the extra information.  Knowing where the photographer was exactly gives me an idea of which side of the family it might be... but it's a bit of a guess as to who she is!  But at least I know more or less when the photo was taken.

Thank you again

Tilly
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Post by: IgorStrav on Sunday 03 June 12 16:49 BST (UK)
Isn't she in costume for a play?  Something in her expression (and the plimsolls!) make me think so...

Added:  and it is a lady, is it?  Please don't take offence, but the whole thing makes me think of Charley's Aunt
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Post by: tilly56 on Sunday 03 June 12 16:56 BST (UK)
Hello Igor,

No offence taken.... I see what you mean.... Something about the eyebrows!!! ;D

I think that I shall send the photo to various family members to see if they have any ideas...

tilly
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Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 03 June 12 23:14 BST (UK)
I think Igor may be right  :D

- I mean - you don't usually wear your tennis shoes to have your photo taken - well - you didn't back then anyhow - unless you were going to play tennis!!    ;)     :D    And they are not even done up properly!
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Post by: Greensleeves on Sunday 03 June 12 23:41 BST (UK)
I agree with Igor and  Wiggy, there is something somewhat theatrical about the stance, the eyebrows, the shoes.....
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Post by: tilly56 on Monday 04 June 12 07:33 BST (UK)
I agree with you more and more.... I've been having a closer look at the photo and I think that I can see trousers - they just show at the bottom of the skirt.  Can't see any trace of whiskers, though, so obviously someone quite young... Interesting!!  I wonder whether it is my grandfather, although he was a Quaker and I'm not sure that is the sort of thing he would have done!! Curiouser and curiouser ???

Tilly
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Post by: baggygenes on Monday 04 June 12 09:40 BST (UK)
I'm glad someone else said it .. my initial reaction was is it a woman?  it was the feet that made me wonder - not just the size and the shoes but theres something about the stance ..  and as you say theres a hint of possible trousers there
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Post by: tilly56 on Monday 04 June 12 09:52 BST (UK)
So I now have a drag queen in my family tree!!

 ::)
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Post by: Wiggy on Monday 04 June 12 09:54 BST (UK)
Well - makes life interesting doesn't it!!!   ;D ;D

You don't want to be dull and boring.    ;)
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Post by: Greensleeves on Monday 04 June 12 09:58 BST (UK)
The subject does look quite young, possibly adolescent.  Wonder if 'he' attended a boys' school and took a female role in the school play.   
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Post by: tilly56 on Monday 04 June 12 10:14 BST (UK)
Lady Macbeth, maybe!!.... although white wasn't really her colour!

I have just shown the photo to my daughter and boyfriend - they agree it is a man and sincerely hope that, if he is an ancestor, his genes are well and truly worn out!!... I think he is quite cute :P

 ;D
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Post by: Treetotal on Monday 04 June 12 10:26 BST (UK)
It's the stance that is the give away...very masculine...a lady wouldn't stand feet apart and there is a comic expression to the wry smile..."Don't take me seriously...please"  ;D
Carol
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Post by: tilly56 on Tuesday 05 June 12 13:27 BST (UK)
Hi Carol,

I thought that, too, about the feet apart..... and now my husband has announced that there is a definite  family likeness...Oh dear!!  I have decided that it could well be my grandfather....a Quaker, Rachebite drag queen, must be rare!!

Tilly ;)