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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Warwickshire => England => Warwickshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Lollster on Wednesday 30 May 12 20:34 BST (UK)
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I have drawn a blank looking for my grandfather on the 1911 census. His name was Frederick Law and on his marriage certificate in April 1911 his address is 36, Saltisford, Warwick. I cant find anything using a name search or an address search. Any help appreciated. ???
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Hi - look up Edward Church in Warwick - Fred is recorded as "Brother", presumably to wife Emma.
Regards Derek
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No - Emma is "Emma Muddeman" on marriage to Edward in 1910 but could be a second marriage. Fred may be recorded as "Lam". Perhaps it is "Boarder" rather than "Brother" !
Derek
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Thank you for your help.
I dont have a 1911 census subscription at the moment but will have a look in the library tomorrow. :)
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Just checked, Fred did not have a brother Edward or a sister Emma????
I am perplexed to say the least!
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Fred is recorded as "San" on two systems and "Lam" on another. Since he is recorded as born Northampton, Edward in London and Emma in Warwick, I think "Boarder" is perhaps a more likely interpretation of the sqiggle !
Derek
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Sorry for being dim but what do you mean by him being, San and Lam and where do I need to look, Im still a relative newcomer to this.
Lorraine.
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Morning Lorraine - with computer databases, you can only find what is there - not what should be there !
When the handwriting on a census return is not very clear - someone trying to type the information into a database can often get it wrong. In the case of Frederick, his surname has been typed in as "Lam" on one site and as "San" on the official 1911census database and another popular site.
If you look for Edward Church in Warwick- you will find Frederick at the same address.
Sorry for not making things clearer - Derek
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Thank you for explaining, as I said I am still a beginner (2 years) and always welcome help and advice from more knowledgable people. This has baffled me for a while, my grandfather was 41 when he married my gran who was much younger so I never knew him so I am trying to build up a picture of him. I will go to the library tomorrow, I have been too busy today.
Thank you so much for your help! ;D
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Hi, did you find your Grandfather in the census? Just curious because I live in the area and there is still a number 36 Saltisford, I'm pretty certain it's the same building as in 1911, it is a nice late Victorian/early Edwardian terrace :)
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Hi,
Yes, I did find him with the help of a very kind person on here. My family name is Law but on the 1911 census site and find my past, his name was wrongly transcribed as San and Lam. His occupation was gardener the same as the certificates that I have so I knew it was the correct person, this has taken such a long time to find!
I found the house on google earth and had a good look at it on streetview. I have been wondering if he may have worked at warwick castle as he was apparently a professional gardener until he died.
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Hi Lorraine - did you ever find him on any census before 1911?
Derek
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Hi,
Yes, I found him on 1881, 1891 and 1901, he just seemed to go awol until he married my gran, thats when I heard that he married before and found his first marriage certificate that said he married in Warwick in 1911.
(sorry, al ot of 'marrieds in there!)
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Brilliant - he must be the Frederick H (enry?) - son of Henry/Harry.
I was worried there might be signs of an yet another earlier marriage on the 1901 census !
Regards Derek
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Hi,
Yes, that is certainly him! I have got certificates to prove this so I know I have the right person. My next mission is to find out where he worked and what he was doing before 1911, probably the next few years may bear fruit???? Thank you for your interest.