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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: KA on Saturday 21 May 05 09:17 BST (UK)
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I've just received a death certificate dated 1869.
The deceased died at 'Bottle Bank, Gateshead'.
Could somebody with a greater knowledge of the area than I have be able to tell me where Bottle Bank was located and what type of area it was.
Regards
KA
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Hi,
Bottle bank is between the Tyne Bridge and High Level Bridge.You should be able to find it on a map. It's in the area of the 'great explosion' in the 1850s. Gatashead council website has facts, figures and links. Regards Steve
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Thanks for that.
KA
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Hello KA,
Just to amplify a little on what kaja told you - 'Bottle Bank' is/was a narrow street which went VERY steeply down from the Foot of Gateshead High Street (North end) to the Swing Bridge.
Before the 'Tyne Bridge' was built (1920s?) it was the centre of a very poor slum area - most of it was demolished to make way for the new bridge but the West side was still standing in the 1940/50s. It looked rough even then!
In the last few years that, too, has been demolished and a new hotel built on the site - the 'Newcastle Hilton'! (Even though it's in Gateshead!)
I don't think they'll give their address as 'Bottle Bank'!
Regards. Bob Lewis.
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Bob,
Thanks eversomuch for that. I do appreciate it.
It's nice to be able to get the feel for the names of places on certificates. It can tell so much. And what you describe, and knowing the ancestor concerned was a paraplegic gives me an insight to the tough life that must have been experienced.
Many thanks
KA
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If you give me a short while (2-3 weeks), I can get you a photo. (Waiting for camera to be delivered !)
Mail me privately, with your email address and I will send it to you.
I am sure that there will be some local history pages that have a photo of circa the time period you want, if you do a net search.
Best,
Val :)
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Bridge 1 photo has the new SAGE building on the left. If you were to 'turn left as the crow flies' and continue off picture, then bottle bank is further left. Bottle Bank is a very short, steep bank. It is a one way street these days.
I was told by relatives that it used to be where the ladies of the night worked, in the 1970's-1980s.
Bridge 2 is the reverse. Newcastle on left, Gateshead side on right. Just to give you an idea.
Cheers,
VAL
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Val,
Many thanks. I have sent you a PM.
Regards
KA
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Hello KA,
Since posting the note to you on here on 16.06.2005 I have found that if I'd stretched my left arm by a couple of feet I could have found 4 photographs of Bottle Bank!
Not sure what your present position is but I'll give you the detials anyway:
They are in a book called 'Images of Tyneside', published by 'The Breedon Books Publishing Company Limited, 44,Friar Gate, Derby. DE1 1DA' in 1995.
It seems to have been published for the 'Newcastle Journal & Chronicle Ltd.' -the local newspaper outfit.
There is a note at the front saying, 'To purchase copies of these archive photographs telephone the N J & C, Photosales dept., on 0191-2016001 to request an order form.'
The relevant pics are on pages 163: 1) Beyond the bridge. 2) Extreme left. 164: Whole page. 166: Upper - directly behind the ladder!
If you are not in the UK and still want 'em, let me know and I'll do what I can to get 'em for you - or try and find a nice neighbour with a scanner!
Regards. Bob Lewis.
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Bob,
Thanks for that. I'm in the UK. I'll give the number a call and see what transpires. I'll let you know. If I get no joy I'll get back to you. But hopefully they can send me an order form.
Thanks very much for your help.
Regards
KA
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I had a look last night on the net to see what I could find for you.
Have you tried- www.picturesofgateshead.co.uk
It has one photo which doesn't quite manage to show Bottle Bank itself, just the street at the bottom of it, but it does give you an idea of the area.
It is peeing down today, but I am due to go to Gateshead within the next week, so I will try my best to go on a sunny day for you.
Please don't buy the book until you see the photos I send you. I don't want you wasting your money if I can do the same as the book. I know I haven't got a Tardis and cannot go back in time, to take a photo of when your ancestor was alive !!
Perhaps you could phone the publisher and ask if Bottle Bank is shown in the book, before you buy ?
I can try going to Gateshead Library to see if they have any photos of Bottle Bank and take a photo of the photo ???????!!!!!!
Let me know what you want.
Cheers,
VAL
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UPDATE ++++++++
Here is the link for loads of Bottle Bank Photos.
The guy might be able to tell you where you can get free copies of old photos of the area.
Best,
VAL http://www.picturesofgateshead.co.uk/bottle_bank/index.html
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Thanks for both those links. I've been pottering around them and found them most useful. Bottlebank looks a bit bleak now, I dread to think what it was like in 1869. I'm wondering if the buildings were built before of after this date.
Also, the other website with photo's of North East England. Brilliant. Photos of Blyth, Cowpen and the cemetaries. In fact a lot of the areas I have found mentioned on certificates.
I've followed Bob's lead and asked for an order form. However I had to go through varying 'auto' links to get to it, so not sure what will be the end result at the moment.
It is wonderful to get a feel of an area. The gentleman I have particularly linked with Bottle Bank died age 40 of exhaustion following two years of paraplegia. He was a whitesmith with a family dependent on him. Placing him in his environmental context makes his life even more tragic and really shows me what our ancestors were up against.
Thank you both for your help. It is very much appreciated.
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hi
I was looking on another website earlier and came across a picture of a pub called "the Goat" at Bottle Bank gateshead, and I knew I'd seen your posting
http://www.gateshead-pubs.com/5865.html
It may be the only picture about
Andrew
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Andrew!
I don't even have an interest in Gateshead - but those pub pictures are great!!
Thanks for sharing those!
Annie :P
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Andrew & KA,
I looked at the 'Gateshead Pubs' site - it's great! Didn't know it was there!
The best 'Bottle Bank' pic is actually before 'The Goat' - the one of 'The Full Moon' shows the buildings as they were pre 1925 - and shows how steep the hill was!
Thanks Andrew! Good luck KA!
Bob Lewis.
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Hi
Pleased to be of help.
I haddn't seen that one, I was looking for one in Springwell
I'll say one thing though I wouldn't like to come out of that pub after a few, come th think of it going there would be bad enough and youl'd need a drink when you got there, but coming out after a skinfull.
Andrew
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Really good information -
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DUR/GatesheadHistory/index.html
Enjoy,
VAL
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hi just to say i have not enjoyed looking at pubs so much as this.i grew up in felling gateshead.(im sadly not in the north now)so this site was brill.thanks.
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I wonder if there is any photos of pubs in Whitehaven, there used to be hundreds, Well about 80
Lets think:
The Albion Scotch St, Albion Hotel King St, Anchor Vaults Ginns, Anchor Vaults Market Place (the last one I got into a fight in), Anchor Inn George St ............. Whittington Cat Lowther St, and so on... I see a project here
I still like looking at them from the inside, preferably through a glass
Andrew
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Try Googling Andrew!! ::) ::)
Annie
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Annie
OOOh Look
http://www.whitehaven.org.uk/pubs.html
but no pics and my list is longer
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You're mission - should you choose to take it ::)
Is to take that list and take a photo of each one - you're only allowed a half in each pub - AND you have to do it all on the same night!!
What d'you think? can you do it??
if you can't - you post the list and see how fast other Chatters can finish it ::) ::)
Annie :P
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I'm stutterin' again!!!
http://www.thecumbriadirectory.com/Town_or_Village/Whitehaven/Whitehaven.php
http://www.rumstory.co.uk/
Annie :P