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Title: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Sunday 27 May 12 18:59 BST (UK)
samson james born 1887
mark james born 1891
henry james 1893

they had two brothers who seved in devon/dorset
any thing on these pleas
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: t mo on Monday 28 May 12 09:07 BST (UK)
hi
can you give us more info please such as a place of birth , also what do you mean regarding , quote , they had 2 brothers who served in devon/dorset  do you have any names for those 2 ??, only we can,t work with that alone as there are 2,600 or more jameses in the pension records alone .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Monday 28 May 12 10:46 BST (UK)
sorry
samson b exeter devon 1887
mark devon 1891
henry c 1893 binstead hampshire
noah c 1902 binstead hamp
william  c 1884 binstead hamp

i know thomas  b 1885 served with devonshires
liberty served with dorset in 1904 but dont know about ww1

parents william james and jemima
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Saturday 30 June 12 06:17 BST (UK)
helo is there anybody out there lol
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: crisane on Saturday 30 June 12 07:10 BST (UK)
Yes I  am here  :) and it took me quite a while to find this family and now only in the 1891 census.

Samson is actually Sanson - no wonder I couldn't find him at first.  Still can't find Noah

Anyway there is only this in name of Sanson James and nothing to show he is your man. he could be a cousin of your man.

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
Sanson James
Regiment/Corps = LC 364 Company ex, Royal Defence Corps
Regimental Number = 644803, 31729

Also can't see a birth for a Noah in Hampshire - there is one in Poole march 1/4 1901.
Also can't see a birth for a mark James in 1890-1892 in Devon Only one in Kensington in June 1/4 1891.
So trying to get some background on these men is proving difficult.
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: redtonyt on Saturday 30 June 12 08:15 BST (UK)


this looks like the family in 1901 -

RG13, Piece 1978, Folio 65, Page 33
Address - Tents, Heavenly Bottom, Branksome, Dorset

JAMES, Wm 1856 Gipsy Hawker    NK
JAMES, Sarah 1864  Gipsy Hawker  NK
JAMES, Thomas 1885  Gipsy Hawker  York
JAMES, Sansom 1887  Gipsy Hawker  Cork
JAMES, Liberty 1889  Branksome, Dorset
JAMES, Mark 1891  London
JAMES, Henry 1893  Scotland
JAMES, Mary Ann 1895  United States BS
JAMES, Queen 1897  Branksome
JAMES, Freedom 1899 Branksome
JAMES, Norah  1901 Branksome


Think the enumerator may have thought 'Norah' was a girl, when in fact it was probably Noah!


Tony

Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: t mo on Saturday 30 June 12 08:55 BST (UK)
sorry i didn,t pick up on your earlier post how you slipped through the net i don,t know it must have been one of my senior moments  ;D hey ho .
i can,t add much but here goes , found only 2 pension records and they don,t amount to hardly any info .
thomas james att date 1 dec 1904 20 yrs of age soldier no 7478
service / home 1 dec 1904 - 4 jan 1905
occ hawker height 5 feet 5and a half  brown eyes and hair
next of kin father william mum jemima brother liberty
rossmore village heather ? [ can,t decipher writing ] parkstone dorset

liberty james , b 1887 exmouth  age at att 17 yrs 10 months
att date 23 nov 1904  3rd bat dorset regt soldier no 4880
discharge corp  dorset regt 39th & 54th of foot
occ hawker height 5 foot 5ins  eyes & hair brown
service 23 nov 1904- 21 jan 1905 [ looks like this was his training time ]
that,s it couldn,t find any of the others but not surprised as more likely most if they joined up would have seen service in ww1 , i did look at boer war site but couldn,t identify any of them but again most would have been to young for it .
regards
trevor
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Saturday 30 June 12 22:46 BST (UK)
thanks that right ones
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Saturday 22 April 17 08:32 BST (UK)
yes that's liberty james b 1887 Exmouth in army  1904 1905. mo 4880.
but what happened to him is he in any cencus we were told he went to America? no one knows.
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: jim1 on Saturday 22 April 17 16:24 BST (UK)
Believe it not there are 3 Liberty James'.
2 were in the R.F.A. Both drivers & with pretty much consecutive numbers, 135259 & 135261.So joined at the same time. 135261 died 26/7/1919 (3rd. Div. Ammo Column). Son of Mrs. B. James. (according to the census m. Brittania).
The 3rd. is 18772 Pte. 7/Dorsets transferred to the 4th. Res. Batt. (202672) & never went overseas.
Occ. Hawker.
Attested 1916 aged 19. (b. 1897).
Add. Rossmore Village Upper Parkstone. Father Sansom James. (according to the census m. Kate).
Discharged 1918 as being medically unfit.
So according to this the one that served in the Dorsets isn't your man or the one that died in 1919.

Sanson(m) James 31729 D.C.L.I. & 644803 L.C. (364 Coy.). Also says ex RDC but not sure that's correct.
Attested 28/3/16.
Discharged 23/9/18 (wounds).
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Saturday 22 April 17 17:50 BST (UK)
it looks like my liberty james  went in army 1904 out 1905 son of William
don't know what happened after that
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: stuart04 on Tuesday 20 March 18 16:06 GMT (UK)
hi mark james was my grandfather and he served in the great war with the wilts regiment and the 9th welsh regiment.i knew both my grandfathers brothers samson and noah.regards stuart james
Title: Re: any army records on brothers pleas
Post by: achooo on Thursday 05 April 18 19:07 BST (UK)
we was always told that liberty  on hard times went to Canada or usa no one ever heard of him again