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Title: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Friday 25 May 12 14:40 BST (UK)
Hi Rootchatters,   Can anyone identify the cap badge for me, and the reason for the three short chevrons on his sleeve - I wondered if they were length of service stripes but have only seen them on other ranks and they have always been much longer, and I believe wound stripes were short and straight.

In fact I did not think officers wore them, though I suspect he was promoted from the ranks and he could have served a considerable time as an NCO. 

I am going to put the pictures in two posts as I cant seem to get both in one post - first the cap badge (I hope)

Many thanks - Kincaid

Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Friday 25 May 12 14:42 BST (UK)
And this IS the cap badge -

Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: mmm45 on Friday 25 May 12 14:46 BST (UK)
Stripes are possibly overseas Service stripes brought in early 1918
Was thinking along line of General Service Cap badge or Manchesters but arent convinced at moment??

Ady
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Friday 25 May 12 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi Ady,

Thanks for that extremely quick reply - I will look at my books and see if I can spot those particular badges.

I better try and find the rules for awarding overseas stripes, though I did not have much luck using Mr Google -

Kincaid
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Friday 25 May 12 15:15 BST (UK)
Hi again, Ady,

I have had a look and I can see what you mean - I think I would fall on the side of the General Service badge if I was pushed to make a decision.

Kincaid
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Friday 25 May 12 15:24 BST (UK)
This might be a slightly clearer picture


Kincaid

Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: ainslie on Friday 25 May 12 15:46 BST (UK)
Why not post his name etc,then the bloodhounds can get on the trail.
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Friday 25 May 12 15:55 BST (UK)
Ha ha . . . well said . . . . . I have never been let down by this website.   Unfortunately all we have is a photograph and a curiosity about the badge and stripes.

I give talks on the fragments of people's lives that can be found in cardboard boxes in auction rooms and junk shops and this is just such a poor fellow, known only to God, as they say.

Kincaid
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: mmm45 on Friday 25 May 12 17:28 BST (UK)
I dont think its a General Service Badge but then again its got me stumped?
Officer Training Corps? Yeomanry its definately an obscure unit.
Between 1918 and 1921 No medal ribbons but overseas chevrons.

Ady :)
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Saturday 26 May 12 07:18 BST (UK)
Good morning Ady,   That is something I had not picked up on, the lack of medal ribbons.

And he does not look to be in his 20s, more like early or mid 30s.

The fact that it is more of a mystery somehow makes it more intriguing.

I will be out most of today but will think about it again tomorrow.

Thanks for your help so far.

Kincaid
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: mmm45 on Saturday 26 May 12 07:32 BST (UK)
It maybe a Canadian Regiment? Unsure if the officers had the same CEF collar badges than other ranks.
Have a look at 1st Canadian Mounted Rifles and see what you think I'm pretty certain its a match.

Ady
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Saturday 26 May 12 19:00 BST (UK)
Hi Ady . . . You are a star . . . Will check that out . . . Am currently in the middle of a Eurovision song contest party would you believe . . .

Regards,

Kincaid
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Sunday 27 May 12 11:49 BST (UK)
Good morning Ady,

I have looked at the 1st Canadian Mounted Rifles and you are right - it is a perfect match for their badge - Not sure how you managed to cotton on to a Canadian unit, but thanks very much.

I found lots of photographs on a Flickr site too.

Thanks for your help Ady

Best regards,

Kincaid
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: mmm45 on Sunday 27 May 12 15:16 BST (UK)
"Not sure how you managed to cotton on to a Canadian unit, but thanks very much."

I had a hunch originally wondered if it was an Empire Dominion badge it just didnt have the proper look to General Service or Manchesters which were closest British matches AIF are easy enough but CEF have hundreds of badges luckily first page i checked it stood out a mile.
Shame no name as there would be an attestation file online.

Ady :)

Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: battiscombe on Sunday 03 June 12 22:21 BST (UK)
if this is Canadian Mounted Rifles then there may well be 'specialists' out there who might know more if posted .. great war Forum, for example - the number of Lts with 3 years overseas experience in 1918/19 and was not huge  -  (several had MCs so they can be ruled out ..) .. can you see if indeed 1st.. or another unit?
Title: Re: Officer's Cap Badge and Stripes
Post by: Kincaid444 on Monday 04 June 12 05:47 BST (UK)
Good morning, Battiscombe,

Thank you for responding, I will certainly do that - After Ady identified the badge I did find a Canadian Rifles website with lots of pics which I bookmarked.   I will check it again and see if it has a forum and/or posting facilities.

I just love Rootschat - I always turn to it when I hit a brick wall and it has never let me down.

Kincaid