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Title: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: alyson123 on Thursday 24 May 12 22:19 BST (UK)

I wonder if anyone can help with my 3 x Gt Grandmother Agnes Edith ......?
Through census material 1861 and 1871, she states born in Walsall abt 1836.
I cannot find her surname, marraige to Henry Smith circa 1856, parents or
death (between 1871 and 1881).
Her 1st child Bertha Agnes Smith was born in 1856 Bloxwich, subsequent children Rowland H Smith, Joseph H, Sarah Emma and Arthur William were
all born Bloxwich.
I am at a loss with Agnes , any help at all will be gratefully received.

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: suzard on Thursday 24 May 12 22:48 BST (UK)

Quote from: alyson123 on Thursday 24 May 12 22:19 BST (UK)

Her 1st child Bertha Agnes Smith was born in 1856 Bloxwich, .

I think you are a little out with Birtha Agnes' y.o.b.

In 1861 she is age 2 b. Goscote (living in Goscote)
1871 n she is age 12 b. Bloxwich

Suz

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: alyson123 on Thursday 24 May 12 23:28 BST (UK)

Thanks for this Suz, I think I have worked from the age given on 1911
census which stated she was age 54, but this of course could be wrong.
Possibly wise to include dates of marriage for parents of Bertha
from 1856 - 1860.

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Friday 25 May 12 07:17 BST (UK)

I think this is Bertha's birth reg (no pun intended!):

Births Sep 1858   
SMITH  Agnes Birtha       
Walsall 6b 498

The marriage isn't exactly leaping out, so a birth cert may be the only way to find her mother's maiden name.   :-\

Rambler

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: Sharon01 on Friday 25 May 12 08:09 BST (UK)

Hi,

Bertha Agnes Smith 01 Aug 1858, Bloxwich, StaffordBirth Date: 
Parents Henry & Agnes Smith 

Joseph Howard Smith baptised 20 May 1866, Bloxwich, Stafford
Parents Henry & Agnes Smith 

Sarah Ann Smith baptised 20 May 1866, Bloxwich, Stafford
Parents Henry & Agnes Smith 

Rowland Harry Smith baptised 05 Mar 1862 Bloxwich, Stafford
Parents Henry & Agnes Smith 

Arthur William Smith baptised 20 June 1869, Bloxwich, Stafford
Parents Henry & Agnes Smith 

There is also another baptsim with parents Henry & Agnes Smith.

Edgar Smith baptised 18/06/1873 Blakenhall Heath Stafford.

Sharon

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: alyson123 on Monday 28 May 12 11:33 BST (UK)

Thanks Rambler and Sharon for the information. I really cannot understand
why I cannot find the marraige, I thought there would be alot of 'possibles'
with the name of Smith ???
Thanks for everyones help.

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: suzard on Monday 28 May 12 12:41 BST (UK)

1851 image & transcription reads (to me) as Henry Smith 24, Agnes Eadis Smith 25, Birtha Agnes

there is an Agnes Eades of about correct age in 1841/51 (more than one)

then there is this marriage reg

Sept qtr 1857
Aston
on same page
Henry Smith
Agnes davies Eades
6d 296

I wonder???

Suz

Title: Re: Help needed with 3x GtGrandmother
Post by: alyson123 on Monday 28 May 12 18:56 BST (UK)

Suzi,
You are a star!
This information looks very promising and definately worthy
of further exploration.
I thank you so much for giving me a lead and some hope!!
Very much appreciated
Alyson