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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: ozboy on Monday 21 May 12 02:41 BST (UK)
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Hi. I have recently came into possession of a British Death Penny inscribed with the name BERNARD CALLAGHAN.. My wife and I found it amongst my now deceased father in laws belongings after he passed away and have no idea who BERNARD was but I imagine he was a family member.. My father in laws g/parents were originally from Ireland, one being prodestant and one catholic and we have always been led to believe they fled Ireland for obvious reason and settled in Sheffield or there abouts..
Can anyone suggest how I can find out who BERNARD may have been.. Any help would be greatly appreciated..
Graham. (Australia)
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We are not allowed to do lookups of the 1911 census, but I think giving you a clue may be acceptable?
In 1911 there is an 18 year old by that name living in Sheffield. There is also a 58 year old living in Sheffield.
Leaving out the residence of Sheffield, there are many many other Bernard Callaghans ... and your Bernard could be any of those of course. :-\
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I googled Death Penny Bernard Callaghan and he is on the Nominal Roll it says Bernard Callaghan Pte 1080 Dis Ignomony 19/11/1877 1st Batallion of the 13 th Foot Somerset . Dont know if this helps. Lynette
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I googled Death Penny Bernard Callaghan and he is on the Nominal Roll it says Bernard Callaghan Pte 1080 Dis Ignomony 19/11/1877 1st Batallion of the 13 th Foot Somerset . Dont know if this helps. Lynette
I don't think the Dead Man's Penny was issued until World War One, Lynette. Online sources say 1916. This should really be moved to either the West Yorkshire board for Sheffield, or the Armed Forces board. Better let the mods decide.
Pels.
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http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/412664/CALLAGHAN,%20BERNARD
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His father Martin b 1856 Chesterfield.Derbyshire can be found on the 1881 census,,living with his father,,,who was born Ireland.
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Thanks Pels I jumped the gun you are fast gortonboy good work
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He Died Of Wounds recieved in action 15/11/15 deployed to France in June 1915 with 1/4th York and Lancasters so was a Territorial Soldier.
Looks like he died back in UK at Colchester
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0mmh/
Is this the correct family? as there is a Royal Marine from Sheffield of the same name and age KIA in May 1916 Mum listed as Emma?
Ady
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Hi, and thank you all for your replies re: Bernard Callaghan..
Ady, you asked "is this the right family" and I am unable to answer that because the only thing we know is my father in laws name was Norman William Fields and his parents were John William Fields and WINSOME HOPE CALLAGHAN so I am pressuming that Bernard was possibly Winsome's brother or maybe uncle..
Norman was a strange man and for whatever reason he would not talk about his family.. Whenever my wife asked him about her roots all he would say was "what do you want to know that for"..
My wifes name is * and she was born in Sheffield on * and her mum was Delma (Richards) who was Australian.
Other than that she knows nothing at all about the Callaghan side of her family except for the Death Penny and her Gran's maiden name and that is making our search near impossible..
Graham..
*details of living person removed in accordance with Rootschat policy
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The only Winsome Callaghan I can find on Ancestry is UK Incoming passengers from Rangoon Burma in 1948 with mum Sybil and few other siblings Address in Glasgow given? shes aged 11 born 1937
However this cant be her as John W Fields married Winfred ( Winsome )in July quarter of 1918 in Sheffield...
Norman then born 1924 Sheffield.
Ady
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The Royal Marine Bernard Callaghan who died at Jutland on the Black Prince had a mum Emma 52 Broad Lane Sheffield(Widow) on the 11 census
Bernard had a sister who was born 1898 called Winnifred could this be maybe Winsome??
Bernard was born C 1892
Ady
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Norman married a Winifred Callaghan in July quarter of 1918 according to BMDs
There was also a Winifred Callaghan who married a Samuel Cope from Sheffield in Dec 1917 he was a miner and his record survives on military records so you can cross him of your list.
So at present it could be the Royal Marines Death Penny you have.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=8186683&queryType=1&resultcount=3
His record is here but it MAY not be him ...His medals were issued to his mother Emma.
Ady
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The Royal Marine Bernard Callaghan who died at Jutland on the Black Prince had a mum Emma 52 Broad Lane Sheffield(Widow) on the 11 census
Bernard had a sister who was born 1898 called Winnifred could this be maybe Winsome??
Bernard was born C 1892
Ady
That is the best lead we have to date Ady and my wife is so excited after so long so a big hug from her.. :) Can you suggest a site where we might be able maybe look at the rest of the family.. The date you have posted re Bernard's birth year would make him a young man at the time of his death and the 2 year difference between he and Winnifred sounds good also..
It's a shame that we have limited access to British records where we live here in Australia so we both appreciate your assistance.. Once again thanks mate..
Graham
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Graham
Bernard(Royal Marine) Callaghan family:
Mum Emma(44)
Brothers Tom(23),John Leonard(15)(Service record on Ancestry),Edward(8) and sister Winifred(aged 13)
All born Sheffield
Emma widowed, ages in brackets
Ady