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Title: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: nancyann on Tuesday 15 May 12 02:36 BST (UK)
 

Can anyone help to find the burial place of Martin Bullock who died on 3 August 1900. His address is recorded as
4 Eastwoods Yard, Manchester St , Huddersfield .

Thank you
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Tuesday 15 May 12 08:07 BST (UK)
Hi

I think he would have been buried at Edgerton cemetery which is the council cemetery.
You seem to have a date so you could try and contact the local history department of the Huddersfield library and ask them if they could look it up for you.

John
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Wednesday 16 May 12 17:07 BST (UK)
Council will do a search for burial place if information is given to them on who,where etcetera if you pay a fee for them to search. search fee is minimal. i know i'm trying to find burial ground myself.
Information is on kirklees website.


T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Thursday 17 May 12 07:58 BST (UK)
Hi

The library do so much research for free, I think they do 30 minutes or more a month free but you would have to check with them.
Just give them the dates, for you I would say 1 August 1900 to the 20 August 1900 and ask them to look in both the consecrated and unconsecrated sections.
Undertaker if you give me some pointers to the area you are looking for I will try to point you to the right graveyard.

John
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: kaz1056 on Thursday 17 May 12 20:52 BST (UK)
 Bereavement Services <Bereavement.Services@kirklees.gov.uk> I have found this service useful good luck
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Sunday 20 May 12 09:51 BST (UK)
Hi

You could also try the Huddersfield family history society, The Rootsceller, Meltham, Huddersfield.

They have a lot of burial info in book form transcribed.

Also Lockwood cemetery and other nonconformist chapels burial grounds should be consided held at the Huddersfield library.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 21 May 12 12:25 BST (UK)
This link give possible Burial places

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/churchmap?GR=SE145167,D=3

See location 30 in red. This is roughly where Eastwood yard was


http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/WRY/Huddersfield/index.html
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 21 May 12 12:29 BST (UK)
See this link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=176045.new;topicseen
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 21 May 12 12:46 BST (UK)
Also try Emailing Steve Whitwham for advice.
address in link

Steve has many years interest in Ancestry, Lockwood and Manchester Road is a special interest to him also he was a founder member of the Huddersfield family history society.


http://www.whitwam.co.uk/

Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: Tony Lund on Monday 21 May 12 17:53 BST (UK)
A while ago now, I looked in the Huddersfield Examiner and the Holmfirth Express for a death notice for this man, but I could not see anything.  But if he was living on Manchester Road there is a chance there might be a notice in the Colne Valley Guardian.  I can take a look on Wednesday.  I will post the result, if any!!!

Tony Lund.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 21 May 12 19:15 BST (UK)
Martin Bullock was buried Aust 4th 1900 in Edgerton Cemetery in the consecrated ground.

burial Number 17960
Section 6 B
Public grave number 113 (pauper grave with 20 bodies (Mostly infants) 13 ft deep double, width grave

Eastwood's yard is addressed as Upperhead row not Manchester Road street

Edited in View of John's post
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 21 May 12 19:17 BST (UK)
Edgerton Cemetery Huddersfield -Grave plan plot map and exact 6 B section map

Looking North in both maps
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Monday 21 May 12 19:31 BST (UK)
These are photo's of the grave of Martin Bullock d 1900. White cloth on the stick! is the grave  behind the gravestone of John Dyson who died 1915. Found by the head gardener at Edgerton cemertery Huddersfield.

Also in line with the Spinks nest public house ( The tudor type/style building in the background)
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Tuesday 22 May 12 06:52 BST (UK)
any idea how to search for someone if they died at the storthes hall hospital.?



T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: J.R.Ellam on Tuesday 22 May 12 08:12 BST (UK)
Hi

Some of the replies are confusing Manchester Street with Manchester Road.
Manchester Street ran from the top of Outcote Bank to Market Street and was roughly where the maid doors to the Huddersfield courts are. Manchester Road is still there at the bottom of Outcote Bank and runs towards Marsden.

John
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: kaz1056 on Tuesday 22 May 12 08:51 BST (UK)
Undertaker think the wakefield archive has some info re storthes hall burials, I worked there from 1972-1988
There is a memorial and a plaque dedication to all storthes hall patients that were buried at Thurstonland church as a lot where, on June 17th i think, at the church
Alot of patients up to 1972 were buried a Thurstonland after this was edgerton cemetery
Has been in Huddersfield examiner last week
Ann Littlewood has wrote a book
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Tuesday 22 May 12 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi

Some of the replies are confusing Manchester Street with Manchester Road.
Manchester Street ran from the top of Outcote Bank to Market Street and was roughly where the maid doors to the Huddersfield courts are. Manchester Road is still there at the bottom of Outcote Bank and runs towards Marsden.

John

Hi John,

Stand corrected!  :)

Part forgot Manchester street! also part force of habit thinking  of Manchester road.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Wednesday 23 May 12 06:08 BST (UK)
Trying to find a mary ann ellison who died on 27th september 1918 who was born with the surname holroyd and who's husband was joseph ogden ellison as can't find her birth record and don't know if she was buried anywhere with a headstone so want to try and find where she was buried. she lived in halifax but died at the hospital and so don't know where she was buried. if anyone can help me find which church would help solve the mystery.
any ideas.?


T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Wednesday 23 May 12 08:32 BST (UK)
Hi Undertaker

Try starting a new fresh thread as your chance of finding may increase. This thread seems completed as the original request thread beginner member has never come back after the 1 post request message for Martin Bullock burial.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Thursday 24 May 12 05:02 BST (UK)
Will do



T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 24 May 12 08:40 BST (UK)
In the mean time! I'll make enquiries of Mary Ann Ellison who died on 27 th September 1918 for her burial place. If she is buried in Halifax it maybe difficuilt as there are many nonconformist chapel's there or easy if she is in one of the main cemeteries in Halifax or Huddersfield as you gave exact date of death.

Well see ?

Dobby
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Thursday 24 May 12 09:40 BST (UK)
Cheers. She lived at Dennis Court Green Lane Halifax but died at Storthes Hall but was then moved as most people were at that time when death occurred there. Believe most were moved to a Church in Huddersfield but don't know which one.


T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: kaz1056 on Thursday 24 May 12 11:28 BST (UK)
Undertaker not sure what you mean by moved, but see my previous reply, ann littlewood has wrote a book and the memorial at thurstonland
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 24 May 12 13:50 BST (UK)
Cheers. She lived at Dennis Court Green Lane Halifax but died at Storthes Hall but was then moved as most people were at that time when death occurred there. Believe most were moved to a Church in Huddersfield but don't know which one.


T.

Knowing the exact date of death will refine a search to a piont it will take minutes to check each church nr starting with St Thomas in Thurstonland. Kirkburton is near also.

Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 24 May 12 15:11 BST (UK)
http://rogergill.me.uk/thurstonland/tmi-index-name.php

No MI of a Mary Ann Ellison in Thurstonland church yard
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 24 May 12 19:19 BST (UK)
I have been to the Huddersfield library, I have checked Thurstonland parish register of burials from the 27 th Sept to end of Dec 1918 and there is is no Mary Ann Ellinson burial there, though other some entries did showed the abode as Storthes hall asylum (Quit a lot) I also checked  Kirkburton, Kirkheaton Cem, Farnley tyas, Lockwood cem and Edgerton cem and found no burial of Mary Ann. It could be she is buried with her husband if he died before her or in a family grave in Halifax, seeing that Thurstonland  churchyard was the burial places for some Storthes Hall inmates.

I also checked the Huddersfield Examiner newspaper those dates in 1918 and nothing of her death was entered.

Dobby
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Thursday 24 May 12 20:03 BST (UK)
There was a Railway station in Kirkburton in those days just below Storthes Hall that could easily have transported Mary Ann's body to Northowram and would have not taken long in transit.

Where ever he's buried  ???, I think you'll find Mary Ann his wife maybe buried with him as she's not buried with the normal Storthes hall inmates at Thurstonland graveyard



1 Feb 1872 Married Joseph Ogden Ellison  in Parish Church Halifax Farther -Father Isaac a Mason

17 Mar 1873 son Henry born in 43 Garden Street Northowram. He died on 17 Nov 1925 in St Luke's Hospital, Halifax,
West Yorkshire

Deaths Jun 1878   
ELLISON  Joseph Ogden  29  Halifax  9a 327

2 Jun 1878 Joseph Ogden Ogden Ellison Died as a House Painter.
 Mary Ann Ellison Present at Death.
 Died of Brights Disease.
ADDRESS AT DEATH 43 Garden Street New Bank Northowram.
Aged 29 at Death.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Saturday 26 May 12 11:38 BST (UK)
Holroyd, Isaac
[1819-18??] Son of spinster Elizabeth Holroyd. Baptised 24th October 1819.
He was stonemason [1851, 1861, 1871]. ( I've seen Mother Elizabeth as given as a widow so some websites ???)

Methodist services were held at his home in Norland  before the construction of Mount Zion Primitive Methodist Chapel, Norland in 1863.

In 1840, he married Elizabeth Carlton [1822-1???].

Children: (1) Joseph Henry [1841-1842); (2) Phebe [b 1842]; (3) Mary Ann [b 1849];  (4) Frances [b 1851]; (5) Elizabeth [b 1857]; (6) Emma [b 1859]; (7) Clara [b 1863].

The family lived at 4 Church Yard, Halifax [1851]; Garden Street, Northowram [1861, 1871]

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~calderdalecompanion/h.html#999ho
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Saturday 26 May 12 17:57 BST (UK)
Read image.

Mary Ann Ellison Buried October 2 nd 1918 in Section 'O' grave 24 Kingscross Wesleyan Chapel Halifax

Contact Mr B Melia Funeral Director and stonemasons who owns the burial ground at Kingscross Wesleyan chapel and have a location grave plot map , Tel 01422 354453

Also there is a probate Aministration 1918  post 1858 Wills calendars index for Mary Ann Ellison, executor of her estate being her son Harry Ellison b 1873
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Monday 28 May 12 11:57 BST (UK)
Cheers for the information. Yep that's her. Wow you guys are good.

T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: drewhowson on Saturday 09 June 12 16:59 BST (UK)
Hello Undertaker,
Have you found the grave in King Cross Meth's?
If not i can either guide you there or look for it for you.
It is one of the easier graves to find, and not too badly overgrown.
walk into the entrance of the graveyard that is to the left of the old chapel on Skircoat Moor Road.
Walk 9 rows to the right of the path, that is row 'O'
walk 8 graves up from the wall nearest to the chapel and you have found your grave, it is depicted as 'Ellison' on the original maps.
if you need any help let me know, i search the graveyard regularly.
Regard,
Andy
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: kaz1056 on Saturday 09 June 12 19:05 BST (UK)
Hi Drewhowson noticed you have Gaukrodger in your family i have some in mine,one of them married Simeon dyson Tiffany
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: drewhowson on Sunday 10 June 12 16:00 BST (UK)
Hi Drewhowson noticed you have Gaukrodger in your family i have some in mine,one of them married Simeon dyson Tiffany

Hello Kaz,
Sorry i dont have a Simeon Tiffany in my Gaukroger tree but if i come across him i will let you know.
Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Tuesday 12 June 12 15:18 BST (UK)
Drew, thanks so much for the information i haven't been able to find it yet but with your help i should be able to visit the grave shortly.
so many thanks.



T.
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: drewhowson on Tuesday 12 June 12 17:20 BST (UK)
Hello Undertaker,
I have attached a marker page to help you find the grave, in the event of there not being a stone.
take a stick or rake to clear the undergrowth, i also take a pair of shears to let in light and trim the ivy.
Regards,
Andy
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: nancyann on Tuesday 31 July 12 11:06 BST (UK)
 :) :)Thank  you to all those folk who replied to my question about Martin Bullock's burial. I have been on a big OE from N Z,away from a computer and never imagined I would find all this information when I returned. A  special thank you to dobfarm . You have gone to so much effort. I never imagined that I would see a photo of my gt grandfather's burial place.
Nancyann
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: dobfarm on Tuesday 31 July 12 13:50 BST (UK)
Hi

OE ?

(Overseas experience (OE) a term for an extended overseas
working holiday.)  ;D


Glad you got a result!

Martin my not have a posh headstone but he's got a nice resting place and a pub over the hedge to go have a spook in for a free pint at maybe.  ;D

Can't be bad  :)

Good hunting!

 from the UK.

Dobby
Title: Re: Huddersfield Burial
Post by: UNDERTAKER on Saturday 04 August 12 12:37 BST (UK)
Cheers. Thanks for the Help Drew.Never knew my Uncle owned a Gravesite.Who knew.?


T.