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Title: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Monday 14 May 12 18:11 BST (UK)
Hi All

Wonder if anyone could help find Arthur Chapman born Aug 1909 Walpole St Andrew area I believe, I believe his father was James don't have much information to go on and can't find him on 1911 census  ???

I believe ther may have been brothers John, George, Jack and sister Betty and I believe he married Florence Mary Ann Panks but don't have a date sorry

Would appreciate any help or information regarding this.

Thanks in advance of any help

ckimberley

Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Daisypetal on Monday 14 May 12 19:42 BST (UK)
Hi,

I think this is his birth, Walpole St Andrew would have registered in Wisbech RD,

Arthur CHAPMAN    Dec Q 1909    Wisbech    3b  499


and his marriage,

Arthur CHAPMAN    Sep Q 1931    Downham    4b  867
Florence M A C PANKS


and possibly his death,

Arthur CHAPMAN    Dec Q 1981    King's Lynn  10  1404
DOB: 28 Aug 1909


but I also can't 1911 census entry that matches him if his father's name is James :(


Oh dear, there is a 1 year old Arthur living in the Wisbech RD but his father's name is also Arthur, maybe you could get the marriage cert. to see what details it gives for his father.


Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Monday 14 May 12 20:01 BST (UK)
Thanks for the reply Daisy

The marriage looks good ty,

however a little confused by the birth date DOB with the death record Aug but birth Dec is that when it was registered perhaps?

Thank you for your help really appreciate any input to solve my dilema.

ckimberley
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Milliepede on Monday 14 May 12 22:17 BST (UK)
Births, marriages, deaths are registered in quarters Mar, Jun, Sep, Dec.  You would think an August event would be registered in Sep but maybe it was a little late.
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 14 May 12 23:36 BST (UK)
You have 42 days to register a birth so 28th August plus 42 = 9th October which would put it into the Oct/Nov/Dec quarter.

Dawn
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Tuesday 15 May 12 08:04 BST (UK)
Thanks Dawn

That may explains things but still a little confused by the birth month, I am not used to the Engllish records yet only just started searching in England.

Appreciate all in put many thanks

ckimberley
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 15 May 12 10:47 BST (UK)
Where did the birth month of August come from?

Any idea if brothers/sister were older or younger?  If they were born before 1911 it would help with tracing on the census  :)
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Tuesday 15 May 12 14:09 BST (UK)
and possibly his death,

Arthur CHAPMAN    Dec Q 1981    King's Lynn  10  1404
DOB: 28 Aug 1909


Hi Milliepede
From Daisy's reply above He did die in 1981 that I have definate,

I dont know the ages of the brothers/sister sorry, I have tried on the census to find with the brothers/sister names regardless of ages but just cant see I am doubting that his father was named James so difficult when I dont have a very relient source for information.

Thanks Milliepede for your interest.

Regards
ckimberley
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Suffolkgal on Tuesday 15 May 12 18:23 BST (UK)
A Florence M.A. Chapman died in the 1st quarter of 1964 in the Wisbech reg. district.  Her age at death was recorded as 55.
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Tuesday 15 May 12 20:42 BST (UK)
Thank you suffolkgal

Florence was his wife but its Arthur I am trying to work back on....seems to have ducked under the wire for now!
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Tuesday 15 May 12 20:57 BST (UK)

Oh dear, there is a 1 year old Arthur living in the Wisbech RD but his father's name is also Arthur, maybe you could get the marriage cert. to see what details it gives for his father.


Regards,
Daisy

the names of the later children of this Arthur do not match the names for siblings gven above
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Tuesday 15 May 12 21:15 BST (UK)
I know Mabel took advantage of the free 1911 searches

Have just spoken with his daughter and only info is still that Arthur's father was called Jim so assumed name to be James but could Jim be a middle name, pet name, familiarity name, or could it be short for something other than James?

 :P guess I need to keep digging.
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Wednesday 16 May 12 10:17 BST (UK)
Hi All

I have found a reference to my Arthur on Wisbech & The Fenlands - The Wisbech Index

Entry is as follows
1908     Alban? Arthur   Chapman   Batism  Walpole St Andrews

Appreciate all input in this search and thank you in advance of any further contributions

ckimberley

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Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 16 May 12 15:17 BST (UK)
There is an Alban Arthur and he dies in 1976 Norwich district age 68.  Birth date 24 March 1908.


 
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Wednesday 16 May 12 15:43 BST (UK)
Thanks Millipede for looking but have already established he died in 1981
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: Suffolkgal on Wednesday 16 May 12 16:21 BST (UK)
Me again!  Realise you're after Arthur but thought Florence's death might establish family still in the same area.  My OH was born and brought up in Walpole Highway in the 1950s and he knew quite a few Chapmans... When I spoke to him about your query he said he could remember "Shinter" Chapman living in Walpole.   This is probably something you might like to bear in mind - when I first met OH's family was confused because everyone seemed to have a nickname.  ALL the men in OH's family were referred to as 'Bob'!!!  Would suggest you established Arthur's father's name from his marriage certificate.
Title: Re: Looking for Arthur Chapman born 1909
Post by: ckimberley5 on Wednesday 16 May 12 16:54 BST (UK)
Hi Suffolkgal

Really appreciate your help.............. and yes it appears names are a little tricky............ as far as I know arthur's father was called "Jim" but I seriously doubt that was actually his name ie James as I couldnt find an arthur in 1911 census with father James around that area.

I have been told that "Jim" (arthurs father) was married 3 times and last that can be remembered is that he married a lady from Leverington that would have been late 50's/early 60's that is where he was until his death (no date)

Grandparents are turning out to be more trouble than kids lol