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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Mike in Cumbria on Saturday 12 May 12 21:38 BST (UK)
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I did a search on the name Bairstow and saw an old post that mentioned a Rootschat member, Marmaduke 123 having Bairstow ancestors in Ovenden.
I'd be interested in seeing this tree, if that's at all possible. My ggg grandfather, Thomas Hudson Oldfield married Mary Bairstow (born 1813) in or around 1834. Old family knowledge says that Mary's father was a mill owner in Ovenden. I've also seen an entry in the London Gazette which links my Thomas Hudson Oldfield to Bairstow Brothers machinery manufacturers in Ovenden. The entry is as follows:
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership heretofore subsisting between the undersigned, Thomas Bairstow, John Bairstow, Henry Peel, and Thomas Hudson Oldfield, in the trade or business of Machine Makers, carried on at Forest Mill, in Ovenden, in the parish of Halifax, and county of York, under the style or firm of Bairstow, Brothers, and Co., was this day dissolved by mutual consent, as to the said John Bairstow, and in future the business will be carried on by the said Thomas Bairstow, Henry Peel, and Thomas Hudson Oldfield on their separate account, who will pay and receive all debts owing- from and to the said partnership, in the regular course of business.—Witness our hands this 17th day of September, 1864.
Thomas Bairstow. Henry Peel, John Bairstow. Thomas Hudson Oldfield.
Are these anybody else's Bairstows? I've found lots of likely looking people in Halifax at around the right time but can't pin my Mary Bairstow conclusively to any of the families.
Alternatively, any other snippets linking this Mary to a branch of the Bairstow clan would be much appreciated. Mary Oldfield (nee Bairstow) can be seen on the 1851 census: HO107 Piece: 2298 Folio: 764 Page: 4 and on later ones. Her siblings (again from old family knowledge) were John, Sarah, William, Elizabeth, Janie (died aged 2), Harriet, Mary Jane, Hannah and Emma.
Thanks for reading and for any help.
Mike
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A possible christening.........
Maria Bairstow Jan 31st 1813, Illingworth Parish, parents: Hannah and James (Worsted Manufacturer), abode: Ovenden.
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Thomas and Mary's marriage from parish register doesn't give fathers' names. Thomas was a clothdresser, the witnesses were James Bairstow and William Rushworth. Neither bride nor groom signed.
30th Jan 1834 at Halifax Parish Church.
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Thanks Libby
I've seen that one and have marked it as a highly probable! I'm having trouble finding a marriage betwen James Bairstow and a Hannah at the right time. I can see potential marriages to a Grace Riley and a Martha Oates, but neither really fits the bill so far in the way of siblings etc. Grace looks more likely than Martha at the moment and either one of them could be a second marriage, I suppose.
I really appreciate you taking the time to look this up, Libby. Can you see anything else that I'm missing?
Mike
Edit: Cross posted. OK, I hadn't seen that marriage entry, I'll examine that. M
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I'm looking at the parish registers on FindMyPast - they don't seem to give as much detail as wherever you ae looking! Brilliant that it names James Bairstow as the witness - I bet he was her father and the Maria baptism is her.
I've also found Thomas Hudson Oldfield's baptism - it looks as though he was illegitimate but what are the odds on the absent father being called Hudson?!
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Mike, I have a cd of Halifax Parish Registers. If no-one has found the info for you I'll take a look through it tomorrow.
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Excellent, thank you very much. I'm off to bed now though.
Just a thought - as Thomas didn't have a father's name to enter on his marriage certificate, I wonder whether that is why Mary's father is not named either?
Goodnight and thanks again
Mike
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I found the marriage on Ancestry's West Yorkshire Parish Records database.
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They must contain more detail than FindMyPast's records then.
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Hiya Mike
If I'm not mistaken pre 1837 marriage records doesn't state the fathers name wether they have one or not, but its not to say that the witness James Bairstow isn't her father. The records don't look like modern ones where there is space for the fathers name and occupation.
Regards Carolanne
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Hi Mike,
Sorry but my cd is for years 1754 - 1812, therefore Mary's baptism isn't there. If you'd like me to look at any births, marriages or deaths within those years please ask, I'm happy to help where able to.
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Hi Libby
Many thanks for looking - I'll have to see where I can get access to those records.
Best wishes
Mike
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Mike, the West Yorkshire records on Ancestry have images of the original documents, not just transcriptions like FindMyPast. If you have ancestors from the area you really need to get access - your local library or family history centre, either run by a local family history society or the LDS, may be able to help.
Otherwise you could take out a subscription. Ancestry have fairly frequent trial offers as well, which require you to sign up but you can cancel within the time period and not be charged.
Anne
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Thanks Anne
The Ancestry idea is a good one, and I could blitz it in a trial period. Of course the temptation would be to renew the subscription, which is what they want after all!
Mike
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I think it's not a matter of renewing after the trial period, it's remembering to cancel before they take a subscription!
I wouldn't be without it myself.
Anne
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This doesn't answer the original question but I thought you might be interested in this website. There are quite a few Bairstows buried at Mount Zion, Ogden, (including some of my ancestors), and you can search for them here.
http://www.mountzionhalifax.org.uk
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Very interested, thank you Maggie. I do know that Mary's descendants were non-conformists, so they may well have belonged to the Zion baptists. I'll add this to the list of things to do!
Mike
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Hi Mike we are also searching Bairstow family and we have a James Bairstow who lived in Ovenden he was born in1843 his father was Joseph but we are trying to find out Joseph's parents and have got a bit stuck.Can anyone help?
Do you need anymore info ?
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Death Reg in case you dont have it?
BAIRSTOW, JOSEPH age 39
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 22 Page 169
So born c 1807
Closest I can find;
JOSEPH Bairstow
Christening 29 March 1812 Halifax, Yorkshire
Birth 2 December 1806
Parents JAMES/ANN
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Thanks Trish but thats not correct Joseph Bairstow ours died in 1863 and his wife was S Widdop. The Joseph you have found out about is from Halifax and died in Huddersfield. James his son born in1843 he was married to Martha Rothery.
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Sorry got a bit confused as 1851 I found a Susanna Bairstow under Ramsden.
So wrongly presumed she had remarried :-[