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Title: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: sparkle60 on Saturday 12 May 12 14:46 BST (UK)
Anyone  know Margaret Milne’s maiden name please?
Or who her husband was? Looks like she’s a widow here…

I’ve searched for birth / baptism records of all 9 others listed in this 1841 census to discover
parents’ names, none found so far. Would be so grateful if anyone can identify.

Slatybaulk was enumerated just before Swinewaird, so was possibly part of that croft.
Map ref NO8680 : Slatywaird Croft on geograph.org.uk

1841 census
Address: Slatybaulk, Dunnottar, Kincardineshire
Margaret Milne 55 b abt 1786 Kincardine Occupation Farmer
Jane Milne 25 abt 1816 Kincardine
Margaret Milne 20 abt 1821 Kincardine
Alexander Milne 20 b abt 1821 Kincardine Occupation: Ag Lab
Margaret Milne 15 abt 1826 Kincardine
Robert Milne 15 abt 1826 Kincardine
James Milne 8 abt 1833 Kincardine
Mary Ann Milne 7 abt 1834 Kincardine
Amelia Milne 4 abt 1837 Kincardine
Maria Milne 6 months 1840 Kincardine

Cheers
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: daval57 on Saturday 12 May 12 15:01 BST (UK)
You might have more success looking for deaths of the older children, in the hope that one or more survived after 1855, Hence giving you fathers name.

Also, failing that, using wildcards for the surname might help to cover similar sounding names such as Millen, Mullen etc.

Remember too, that ages over 15 in the 1841 census were often rounded to the nearest 5 so dob often not entirely accurate.

Dave
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: daval57 on Saturday 12 May 12 15:11 BST (UK)
Just an afterthought, have you found any of the family in later census records?  Might give slightly more accurate info on ages and places of birth and whether they survived.

Dave
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: sparkle60 on Saturday 12 May 12 15:15 BST (UK)
Thanks Dave, cannot find them in later censuses either.
that's how I've hit a brick wall and posted here.
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: daval57 on Saturday 12 May 12 15:24 BST (UK)
Having a look at census records just now - no luck so far. 

Got bored not finding my own searches this afternoon so will give yours a try for a change of 'scenery'.  :D
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: daval57 on Saturday 12 May 12 18:36 BST (UK)
Nothing I can think of is helping.  Frustrating that none of them seem to appear on other census records.
Do you have marriage or death of any of them? How do they relate to your line?

Must go make some food.  Been on here longer than intended (not continuously looking for this family!).

Dave
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: sparkle60 on Saturday 12 May 12 20:56 BST (UK)
I'm hoping a MILNE ancestor might see this message
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: daval57 on Sunday 13 May 12 03:57 BST (UK)
Have you been directly in touch with any of the members on the SIT........ http://surname.rootschat.com/sit-surnames.php?letter=M&this_name=MILNE&lang=EN

Particularly perhaps, janglaschu ( http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=40431 ) who was online as recently as today and appears to have Milnes in Dunottar.  She last commented on Milnes in that area in 2008 so may have made progress since then.


Good luck.

Dave
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: osprey on Sunday 13 May 12 14:15 BST (UK)
Given that no relationships are stated on the 1841 census, it's possible that this is more than one generation of a family especially as Margaret is enumerated as 55, so really 55-60 and Maria is 6 months.

There are entries for some of the family members in IGI extracted batch C112555 for Dunnottar
Alexander born 26/5/1814 son of Robert Milne & Margaret Grieve
Mary born 17/9/1822 baptised 4/10/1822 same parents
Robert born 31/7/1825 bp 18/8/1825 same parents

also these who aren't with the family in 1841
George born 21/3/1828, bp 18/4/1828
David born 24/5/1821, bp 9/6/1821

Robert Milne married Margaret Grieve 27/11/1809 Kinneff & Catterline batch M112624

possible baptism for Amelia in Dunnottar batch C112555
Amelia bp 18/4/1837 dau of Robert Carnegie & Jane Milne

 :-\
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: daval57 on Sunday 13 May 12 14:47 BST (UK)
Nice finds osprey. 
I never even thought to look at LDS.  ::)  Concentrated too much on census.

Dave
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: osprey on Sunday 13 May 12 14:54 BST (UK)
think I've tried all the males on the census with no success. Pretty sure they're not in Dunnottar later, so moved or emigrated?

 ::)
Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: sparkle60 on Sunday 13 May 12 15:23 BST (UK)
Thanks for having a go, osprey. I found Robert Milne and Maragert Grieve too but not them... 
yes  could have emigrated - maybe Ontario, Canada... I did find this:
www.smeaton.org/Brough_Detailed_Genealogy.pdf   page 52:
Ann Clark, Spinster; age 47, she was born at Galt. Her usual residence was Hamilton. Her parents were David Clark and Maria Milne, born in Scotland. The death was registered by Miss Frances E Clark, 360 Main St. E., Niece. She was buried at Hamilton Cemetery on June 23, 1923

Title: Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: osprey on Sunday 13 May 12 15:58 BST (UK)
what info do you have and what are you trying to find? I don't understand why are you dismissing Robert Milne & Margaret Grieve. The IGI records for their marriage and some of their children are extracted ones. 

 ???
Title: FOUND Re: mystery MILNE at Slatybaulk, parish of DUNNOTTAR 1841
Post by: sparkle60 on Sunday 25 October 20 12:37 GMT (UK)
Years later I have FOUND them :-)
Margaret Milne at the top of the census was Margaret GRIEVE widow of Robert Milne who died some years previously in Durris. I've now tracked down most of these people in this 1841 census at Slatybaulk, Dunnottar, Kincardineshire. They emigrated to Burritt, Winnebago and several can be found in the 1850 USA Census Illinois. One of my elderly Scottish relatives has a trace of shared DNA with one of them. If you believe you are related to them private message me. I am still researching and checking data but may be able to help. Thanks to all those here who tried to assist my search to identify.