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There were two, probably three BUTTON brothers who went to Australia. All born in Brighton: Albert (born 1855), Arthur (born 1858), William Henry (born 1863).
(1) Albert vanishes from England after the 1871 census. Possible that he ended up in Perth (electoral rolls 1903, 1906, death 1938). Seems from WA BMD indexes that he married Robina Lyall and had 5 children between 1897 and 1905 - but I have found no other information about Robina or any of the children beyond their birth records.
(2) Arthur emigrated to Queensland 1883 on the Duke of Devonshire with his wife Caroline Bodley Button (nee Steggall), divorced 1903 and immediately vanished. Caroline remarried in 1920 (William Taylor, in Sydney) and died in 1927. Her two children Agnes and Arthur were still living as they paid for her headstone in Rookwood Cemetery, but no further information about them or their father.
(3) William Henry Button went to Australia in the 1890s but returned to England before the 1901 census. His wife Harriet probably went with him but appears not to have returned. Did she die in Australia? The only passenger list entry that I have found lists William Button age 28 on the Australasian in 1891 with "Ethel" age 26 listed as his wife. Was "Ethel" actually Harriet? How do I find what, if anything, happened to Harriet in Australia. Is there any arrivals list to show William and Harriet (or Ethel) landing in Australia? Any return passenger lists - Australia to England?
Any pointers, or snippets of information very welcome!
-Stephen
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Hello Stephen
There were two, probably three BUTTON brothers who went to Australia. All born in Brighton: Albert (born 1855), Arthur (born 1858), William Henry (born 1863).
(3) William Henry Button went to Australia in the 1890s but returned to England before the 1901 census. His wife Harriet probably went with him but appears not to have returned. Did she die in Australia? The only passenger list entry that I have found lists William Button age 28 on the Australasian in 1891 with "Ethel" age 26 listed as his wife. Was "Ethel" actually Harriet? How do I find what, if anything, happened to Harriet in Australia. Is there any arrivals list to show William and Harriet (or Ethel) landing in Australia? Any return passenger lists - Australia to England?
Any pointers, or snippets of information very welcome!
-Stephen
Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923
Passengers who boarded ships to Victoria from overseas ports
between 1852 and 1923. .Unassisted. means passenger’s fares
were not paid for by the government.
BUTTON Ethel age 26
BUTTON William age 28
Both listed as arriving in Victoria aboard 'Australasian' August 1891
Port-B Fiche-548 Page-001
Raylen
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The West Australian 31 May 1938
death Albert Button d. 30th ....82 yrs... St John of God Hosp. of 18 Florence St West Perth...h/o Robins f/o Bert (ded), Ben, Violet (Mrs S Stevenson), Lily (Mrs H Lucas), Edie (Mrs L Gardner), Ella (Mrs S Gardiner), Ernie and Charles.
Several family notices for this death. Albert is also brother-in-law of Belle.
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This link from http://trove.nla.gov.au/
Gives you Robina Button death notice with lots of names ;D
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0mcs/
Raylen
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Both Albert and Robin BUTTON are buried at
KARRAKATTA CEMETERY
ANGLICAN Area or Denomination
ZC Section 0179 Gravesite
There are a lot of BUTTON burials there you might like to check.
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php
Raylen
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Hi Stephen
One death for a Harriet BUTTON in Melbourne.
BUTTON Hart aged 32 died 1898
Father's name recorded as Cooper, and mother named Phyllis.
Reg #13035
Essie
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The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) Thursday 1 September 1898
FUNERAL NOTICES.
BUTTON. -The Friends of Mr WILLIAM HENRY BUTTON (of Phillip Island)
are respectfully invited to follow the remains of his beloved wife to the
place of interment, Melbourne General Cemetery.
The funeral will leave 1 Latrobe Street, Melbourne, THIS DAY (Thursday 1st September), at 2 o'clock.
JOHN DALEY, Undertaker, Latrobe and Spring Streets, Melbourne.
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Raylen, Essie, Wivenhoe - very many thanks indeed for this help and information. It never ceases to amaze me how knowledgeable and helpful people on rootschat can be.
In particular Harriet's death was a total mystery, though I still don't understand how or when she travelled to Australia, as the only William Button in the passenger lists I've seen was travelling with an Ethel. not a Harriet! He was a naughty boy though. When he got back to England he lived with a married woman Frances Wilson (nee Norris) in Kent, listing her as his wife in the 1901 census, before marrying Harriet's sister Miriam (unlawfully) in Brighton Sussex, later in 1901 - and then going on to have at least two children with Frances in Kent. Sometime before 1904 Miriam also died (presumably), as he then married another different woman, in Brighton.
- Stephen
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(1) Albert vanishes from England after the 1871 census. Possible that he ended up in Perth (electoral rolls 1903, 1906, death 1938). Seems from WA BMD indexes that he married Robina Lyall and had 5 children between 1897 and 1905 - but I have found no other information about Robina or any of the children beyond their birth records.
-Stephen
Seems that there may have been 8 children born to Albert and Robina
taking information from http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au and from
newspaper notices.
BERT - deceased by 1938 - can't find a birth registration
BENJAMIN - can't find a birth registered
Benjamin Ross Button died 26-11-1958 age 69 years
lists parents as Alfred and Margaret :-\ ( so may not be from this family but
Albert and Robina did have a son named Benjamin)
ELIZA VIOLET - born 1897
married Sydney Stevenson 1920
Died 23-6-1984 age 86
LILLIAN MAY - born 1899
married Alfred Lucas 1924
died 30-10-1966 age 67
EDITH ISOBELL - born 1901
married Leslie Gardner 1929
died 30-3-1997 age 75
ELEANOR CONSTANCE - born 1903
married Stanley Gardiner 1924
died 28-11-1981 age 78
ERNEST LYALL - born 1905
married Constance Edith Unknown date ?
died 9-5-1971 age 85
CHARLES CLARENCE - born 1908 ( no parents named)
died 11-8-1966 age 58
All are at Karrakatta Cemetery
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/search.php
You can get Registration numbers etc http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au
Raylen
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Hi raylen - that's brilliant! I found some of that information but it was slow going. I got most of the births and marriages but not the deaths. Yes, Benjamin may not be the right one - I suppose always possible that hwe wasn't born in WA. At about the same time, Albert's brother Arthur was in eastern Australia (and going through a divorce in 1903, in NSW), also another brother William Henry was living on Phillip Island, Victoria from about 1891 to 1899.
I'm assuming that Charles Clarence is the correct Charles - but have made contact with a possible relative on GenesReunited who should be able to confirm or reject this identification.
as for Bert - I think this is the Bert Button who was killed in November 1916 in a bomb accident on Salisbury Plains, England: found a few newspaper notices about his death. Found him on the CWGC database - Albert James Button, died 23 Nov 1916. 51st battalion, AIF , buried in Codford St Mary, Wiltshire, wife Gladys May, but no further information. Hiswife's name tallies with the Gladys in the newspaper entries, who had surname Crowle (in memoriam entry was placed by her father, hence we have the surname).
Thanks again
Stephen
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That's interesting. I knew that Albert went to Australia, but there is a wealth of new information here.
I have traced the Buttons back to the 1600's and would be happy to share what I have.
meles
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Hi, Meles - the earliest Button I have is now Edward - born about 1620, probably in Arlington, Sussex. He married Dorothy Tompkin 20/8/1642 in Arlington.
With all the help from rootschat members and the amazing Trove resource of newspapers I am beginning to piece together the families of the Buttons who went to Australia. Not just Albert, but his brothers Arthur (went to Queensland, later NSW) and William Henry (Victoria - Phillip island, 1891 to about 1900 - he returned to England after the death of his first wife Harriet in 1898).
- Stephen
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I now have a suspicion it was you who gave me the info! ;D
meles
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It's possible, but not that important - as long as it's accurate! I don't have a huge amount of extra information since we were last in touch, but there is some new data. I'll check back and see what else...
all the best
Stephen
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Wow this is very interesting. I believe Albert was my great great grandfather. His daughter's (Lillian May) daughter is my grandmother born in the 1930's. I am really interested to see how far back this goes. :)
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Could anyone show me where I would find information on Albert's Parents
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Hi, tomtree .... I have sent you a personal message too. The most up-to-date version of the tree is on GenesReunited, but a fairly recent version is on Rootsweb - http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silicondale
... all the best - Stephen