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Title: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Sunshinejack on Thursday 10 May 12 18:11 BST (UK)
I was looking for an Elizabeth Warner on the 1861 census. In 1841, she was age 40 and married to Thomas Warner, living at Thomas Street, Salford. They had a number of children from their two previous marriages and their own marriage.

I was really looking for where Elizabeth was born. I'm assuming somewhere in Lincolnshire because that's where they came from but I'd love a place name.

Thanks :)

Jacqueline
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 10 May 12 18:21 BST (UK)
1861
RG9/2917/53/25
thomas warner age 70. b. spalding,lincs. head
elizabeth warner age 60. b. wyebuster,lincs. wife
sarah booth age 33. b. spalding. step daughter
robert warner age 21. b. salford. son
arespin warner age 18. b. salford. son
living at;salford,lancs
i cannot seem to get the actual image up
all i get is a blank page
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 10 May 12 18:28 BST (UK)
here is the 1871
1871
RG10/4020/17/27
elizabeth warner age 70. b. lincoln. occ. mangle woman. head(wid)
sarah booth age 43. b. lincoln. occ. mangle woman. daughter(unm)
robert warner age 31. b. salford. occ. factory operative. son(unm)
living at;57,broster street,salford,lancs
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: wozzle on Thursday 10 May 12 18:31 BST (UK)
by 1881 elizabeth was not at the 1871 address but the other 2 sarah and robert were still there
elizabeth had probably died by then
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Sunshinejack on Thursday 10 May 12 18:32 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Woozle!! I had no idea there had been another Warner after Robert. lol I'm hoping to get Roberts birth cert. so I can get Elizabeth's maiden name.

Do you think Wyebuster could have been been transcribed wrong and was actually Wyberton?? Guess I'll have to go back Lincolnshire way and look at the maps.

Elizabeth was my 4x great grandmother. My line comes from her marriage to a William Booth. Where on earth did the name Arespin come from??
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: mosiefish on Thursday 10 May 12 18:34 BST (UK)
Yes,

The image for 1861 looks like Wyeburton so Wyberton would be a good guess.  Arespin I think is Crispin

Mo
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: keyboard86 on Thursday 10 May 12 18:37 BST (UK)
Hi on the missing 1851, they are shown as WARRENER, and it has been transcribed from one of the water damaged returns by the Manchester  & Lancs Family history society, Census Ref HO107/2223/0/0 Elizabeth's birth place has been transcribed as Weverton?

In case you cannot locate via the census return, here is the 1851 transcription:-

Thomas Warrener 60 occ Cordwinder J'yman b Spallinder
Elizabeth 50 b Weverton
Robert 11 b Salford
Crispin 7 b Salford
Sarah Booth 23 Stepdaughter b Spalden
John Catterall 25 occ Iron Lab b Chester
Residing at 57, Broster Street, Manchester.
Keyboard86
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Sunshinejack on Thursday 10 May 12 18:53 BST (UK)
And so it is Crispin not Arespin thankfully!! ;)

Thank you so much keyboard86.
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: wozzle on Friday 11 May 12 15:44 BST (UK)

1841
HO107/585/13/33/24
thomas warner age 50. occ. shoemaker. born out of county
elizabeth warner age 40. born out of county
james warner age 18. occ. ropemaker. born out of county
george warner age 15. occ.?. born out of county
charles warner age 14. occ. umbrella maker. born out of county
william warner age 5. born out of county
robert warner age 1. b. in county
henry warner age 11. occ. ropemaker(journeyman). born out of county
sarah booth age 14. occ. silk winder. born out of county
john jones age 50. occ. warehouseman. born in county
mary jones age 50. born in county
john longworth age 30. occ. ?. born in county
eliza longworth age 25. occ. dress maker. born in county
eliza longworth age 3. born in county
john longworth age 4mnths. born in county
living at;thomas street,greengate,salford,lancs
 
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 11 May 12 20:17 BST (UK)
Hi,

As Sarah BOOTH is a step-daughter in 1851 I think this could be a second marriages for Thomas and Elizabeth.

12 SEP 1833   Spalding, Lincoln
Thomas WARNER
Elizabeth BOOTH   
 

Christening for William,

William Warner 
23 Dec 1835 
Spalding
Father: Thomas
Mother:  Elizabeth


 Oops rereading your thread I think you already know that it's a second marriage :-[



Regards,
Daisy



 
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 11 May 12 20:37 BST (UK)
Possible first marriage for Thomas,


20 Jan 1811  Spalding
Thomas WARNER 
Elizth. TWILLEY 


findmypast has the marriage as,

21 Jan 1811
Thomas WARNER
Elizabeth TWILLEY
Parish:  Deeping St James
Deanery:  Aveland & Ness
County:  Lincolnshire
Notes:  TW Spalding

I'm not sure if this means the bride was of Deeping St James parish and married in Spalding?

There is a christening of an Elizabeth TWILLEY there about the right time :-\

Baptism
15 Apr 1792,  Deeping St James
Eliz TWILLY 
Father's Name: Jas. TWILLY   
Mother: Jane 



Possible death of Elizabeth :-\

Burial
06 Oct 1832
St Mary & St Nicholas, Spalding
Elizabeth WARNER 
Age: 39



Daisy
Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 11 May 12 22:13 BST (UK)
Possible marriage of an Elizabeth to William BOOTH,


14 Nov 1820  Wyberton,Lincoln   
William BOOTH 
Elizabeth LISTER


Title: Re: 1861 Elizabeth Warner lookup
Post by: Sunshinejack on Saturday 12 May 12 13:10 BST (UK)
Thanks Daisy.

I have a hunch that that marriage between William Booth & Elizabeth Lister is the right one.
Their 4 children were born 1824, 1826, 1828 & 1830.

Hopefully this summer I'll get Robert or Crispin's birth certificate and find out Elizabeth's maiden name.