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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lincolnshire => Topic started by: mrs.tenacious on Monday 07 May 12 15:42 BST (UK)
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Can someone confirm which registration district Beckingham, Lincs would have come under for a birth in 1887 please? I know it is situated between Newark & Sleaford, but seem to be going round in circles :-[
Thanks :)
Mrs. T.
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Hi there Mrs T
According to the Beckingham Genuki it was in the Bassingham sub-district of Newark
Registration district.
regards Sandymc
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This place-name index, cross-referenced to Registration Districts is well worth bookmarking
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/places/
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Thank you Sandymc, ...
.....and JenB - will bookmark it.
Much appreciated :)
Mrs. T.
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Don't forget there is another Beckingham 3 miles west of Gainsborough, which thouigh in Bassetlaw North Notts is easily confused with Lincolnshire. Or are you aware of this?
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Thank you for highlighting that, Roger.
I went back to the 1911 census image for the family I'm looking at, and realised the wife is down as born "Notts Beckingham", so that must be the one you mention. Her husband was born in Rowston, Lincs and their two sons in Gainsborough.
Very much appreciated - another birth search is now required!
Mrs. T.
Postscript: Thanks to you mentioning the other Beckingham I've been able to find her surname, birth and their marriage (her husband's name had been slightly mistranscribed, which didn't help!). I'd already spent a couple of hours getting nowhere - you've saved me many more. Huge thanks once again :)
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Pleased to help, I worked on the railway at Doncaster for almost 40 years, and the number of trains which had mechanical defects and were shunted into Beckingham loop was unbelievable. So, being unaware but not surprised there was more than one Beckingham I thought I should draw your attention to it. Pleased it worked out.
Roger
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Hell Mrs T,
On the census, did it give the place as Gainsborough for the sons born? Beckingham was in the registration district of Gainsborough at this time and wondered, if this was your source of information. What surname are you interested in? i do have access to a variety of Beckingham info.
Louthlass
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Thanks so much for your offer of help, Louthlass. After a few years of FH research on my own family, am just beginning my husband's side, so am not as au fait with the areas etc!
The family names are Jefferys and Exton. 1911 census details are:
Address: Saundby, Gainsborough, Lincs.
Ernest Jefferys 26 Cowman on Farm b. Rowston, Lincs (abt 1885)
Sarah Jane Jefferys 24 (married 4yrs, 2 children born, still living) b. Beckingham, Notts (b. 1886)
Charles Frederick Jefferys 4 b. Gainsborough (b. 21 Jan 1907)
George Ernest Jefferys 1 b. Gainsborough (b. 1910)
Charles Frederick was my husband's grandfather. His daughter confirms that Ernest's wife was Sarah Jane Exton. She was told that Ernest was not the real father of Charles Frederick. I found the marriage for Ernest & Sarah Jane: Jan-Mar 1907 Gainsborough 7a P1183. Charles was born 21 Jan 1907; the marriage may have taken place just before the birth. Am waiting for a copy of Charles's birth certificate from a family member in case it names a different father, but accept it may name Ernest as the father.
There were 4 further children:
James Edward Jan-Mar 1917 Gainsborough
Margaret E Jul-Sep 1922 Gainsborough
Albert Apr-Jun 1924 Southwell, Notts
and Elsie May. Cannot find a birth for her - know that she married a George Calcroft - found a death index entry for Elsie May Calcroft in Dec 1997 Cheshire
that gives her birth date as 21 Dec 1920, but it is not proven to be her. My husband remembers she died just before Charles Frederick (who died in 1998) so I think it is highly probable, and if so, would give her birth year as 1920).
Charles Frederick's daughter thinks that Ernest and Sarah Jane moved from Gainsborough sometime after his birth, to Nottingham, and Retford. They also lived in Walesby, then Ollerton, but I don't have any idea of which years.
Hope this all makes a bit of sense, and if you are able to provide any further information from the records you have access to, I would be so grateful!
Thank you :)
Mrs. T.
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Hello Mrs T,
I can find some Exton ref; at Beckingham
Bapts 1885 Feb 1st James son of Edwin and Harriet Ann
1886 Sarah Jane dau of Edwin and Harriet Ann
1888 Tom Henry May 27th of Edwin and Harriet Ann
1890 William Jan 19th son of Edwin and Harriet Ann
Marriage banns
Edward Exton of Saundby parish bach.
Harriet Ann Carkiena? of Beckingham = May 1884
The Saundby records i haven't to hand at the moment so unable to check.
Will keep looking Louthlass
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That's them Louthlass! I remember the names from a cursory glance at the censuses.
That's just brilliant - thank you so very much!
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1884 marriage in the Gainsborough RD gives the names as Edward Exton & Harriet CARKWINN but it's the only bmd record on freebmd for the surname.
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According to "Surnames of England and Wales" there were under 5 instances of this surname shown in the 2002 census. More probably I think it does not exist, either in 2002 or in the 19th century. In my opinion it's a transcription error at least twice. Best turn to the original document if possible.
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Births, March qtr 1921
Worksop district vol 7b, page 109
Jefferies, Elsie M Mother's maiden name Exton
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1884 marriage in the Gainsborough RD gives the names as Edward Exton & Harriet CARKWINN but it's the only bmd record on freebmd for the surname.
According to "Surnames of England and Wales" there were under 5 instances of this surname shown in the 2002 census. More probably I think it does not exist, either in 2002 or in the 19th century. In my opinion it's a transcription error at least twice. Best turn to the original document if possible.
Thanks for taking the time to look, Glen :)
Roger - based on those figures I'd be inclined to agree with you that it's a transcription error. The original documents would be the safest bet. Thank you once again ;D
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Births, March qtr 1921
Worksop district vol 7b, page 109
Jefferies, Elsie M Mother's maiden name Exton
Thanks so much for that - have only just started the research on this family and got very waylaid by a mystery involving her brother, so my cursory searches hadn't yet extended to name variations on spellings!
I'm very grateful for the help everyone has given :-*
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The bmd events in Lincolnshire reg districts are handy as you can get certificates which are scans of the original registers (thus avoiding some of the transcription errors associated with GRO created certs).
Orders can be made to the Lincs County Council by phone or online (see the council website), from my own experience they are also quicker than the GRO too.
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Thank you Glen - that sounds like a good tip, especially for the little mystery I'm working on at present!
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The original signature on the scanned certs helped unravel the mystery of my granny and her claims to be married to my grandfather, the truth is she wasn't free to marry but the census, electoral rolls and probate would lead you to think otherwise.