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Looking for Robert James Murray born in Liverpool abt 1894 mother mary father Robert Murray on the 1891 census.
Thank you
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Are you sure Robert James Murray was born 1894, you are after a look up in 1891 ;) Is it a 1901 you are after?
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So sorry im looking for his father also Robert Murray born abt 1856 i presume Liverpool
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I have Roberts father as Patrick Murray, would like to know who Patrick married and any siblings for Robert please
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Lancs BMD has a Robert J Murray born St Martin's district of Liverpool, 1894.
Possibly one you are searching for?
Also 2 marriages in L'pool to a Mary. 1889 and 1893.
Do you think either of these could be the parents you are looking for?
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Hi,
Yes its the 1889 marriage thank you, what im now trying to do is find this couples parents and both lots of siblings. Roberts father is Patrick and his wifes father is John Mccaslin
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Am I right in thinking that you have the marriage cert, or have seen the marriage record for St Patrick's?
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Hi,
Sorry let me tell you what i have
i have a birth cert for a robert James Murray born 1894 Toxteth Liverpool (occ fireman on steamer) his parents were Robert Murray and Mary Ann McCaslin. I also have a marriage cert for Robert Murray and Mary Ann Maccaslin.
On the marriage cert Robert is 33 his father is Patrick Murray(deceased) and Mary Ann McCaslin is 29 her father is John McCaslin. Both the fathers are labourers.
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On your other post about Mary McCaslin you say you have 1911 information. Where/when was Robert senior born and where was Mary Ann born.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,596219.msg4463405.html#msg4463405
Rosie
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Hi,
on the 1911 census mary is born in Liverpool, Robert her husband is not on the 1911 census. I will go and look for him on the 1901 census.
With mary is dau Lillian 24, son George E 22, son hosoa 20,son Robert 20 all born in liverpool.
M..
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Hi Tinker, You have the cert but have you seen the the entry in Church reg on-line?
That is in Latin, gives addresses, but not ages of bride and groom.
Is it possible that they came from Ireland? I have found a John and Ann born Ireland living in Liverpool 1871, daughter Mary Ann born Gateshead.
Su
Sorry, just saw that Mary born liverpool in your mention of 1911
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Hi,
on the 1911 census mary is born in Liverpool, Robert her husband is not on the 1911 census. I will go and look for him on the 1901 census.
With mary is dau Lillian 24, son George E 22, son hosoa 20,son Robert 20 all born in liverpool.
M..
Hello,
looking at the baptisms, I was going to post this Murrey family living in Rishton in 1901:
Robert (b Preston) Mary b Felling, Durham with children Annie T, Pricilla and Robert.
heywood
Those children all have a mother Mary Ann Mcaslin.
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Back again Tinker.
1891 Robert Murray - Fireman Marine b 1858 Preston
Mary A 1858 Newcastle
Ann T 1891 8 months Liverpool
Mccaslin Ellen 1871 Liverpool
Henderson St, which is where Robert and Mary Ann lived at time of marriage
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1901 has a family, with Lillian, George and Robert amongst the children but the parents are Andrew and Mary :-\
I think you are probably mixing two families or certainly two Roberts.
You need to investigate your Robert more. Possibly the Robert/Mary A family stayed around Blackburn area.
Do you have the marriage for your Robert for his father?
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Looks as though Rishton is correct one Heywood. Links in with info from 1891.
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Hi msr,
My concern is that it is the right one for that family, but which Robert is tinker searching for?
The 1911 information given by tinker isn't the same family so there are presumably two Roberts born around the same time.
If it is Robert James with those parents then all is well. :)
heywood
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Hi Heywood
Tinker said it's the Murray/McCaslin family.
Su
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Hi Heywood
Tinker said it's the Murray/McCaslin family.
Su
Yes and has the birth certificate so hopefully that is the right one. As I said, I was just concerned that it was the wrong Robert Murray born abt 1894 that was being searched and therefore the wrong birth certificate had been obtained.
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Hi everyone,
The birth cert i have (Robert James Murray) is correct with parents Robert Murray and Mary Mccaslin this cert is in the possession of my Dads cousin she has had it for years it is in a very bad state.
So i think the 1911 census info isnt mine.
Thank you very much for your patience
M..
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Well Tinker - M,
They do say that patience is a virtue, and searching is an addiction ;D
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If the '71 census was correct it lists siblings as
James, Catherine, Sarah J and Edward.
first 3 born Gateshead but Edward born Liverpool.
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1881 has more children
Ellen, another Catherine(wonder if 1st one died), Alice, Robert and Margaret.
A Catherine McCaslin died 1871 aged 6, so shortly after the census it would seem.
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On the marriage cert (1889) Murray/Mccaslin are living at 18 and 20 Henderson Street Toxteth Park.
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I know I asked this earlier Tinker, but have you seen the Catholic marriage image online.
Not sure if you have that or just the GRO cert.
Su
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Searching the Liverpool baptisms it seems that Ann, wife of John McCaslin was a Murray before marriage. The McCaslin surname has been written some different ways though, almost to the point of non-recognition.
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Quite a few Catholic marriages for siblings of Mary Ann McCaslin on-line too.