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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: NIMROD on Friday 04 May 12 19:08 BST (UK)
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Hi,
It's been ages since I was last on Rootschat so I've rather lost touch and uncertain to whom I've replied and not. If you fall into the latter then please accept my humble apologies.
Ok. I have a mystery which is plaguing the life out of me. It concerns the very sad case of my Gt Gt Aunt, Ella Parker. She was born in Deal, 1859 to George and Susannah Parker (nee Wellard).
In 1880, Ella was picked up in Spitalfields for prostitution and taken to Whitechapel Infirmary, moved to Banstead Lunatic Asylum before being admitted to Kent County Lunatic Asylum on Chartham Downs. I have obtained her admission and medical records from KCLA which make most distressing reading. She was malnourished, very underweight, dirty and suffering from 2nd degree syphilis and her mental state was very poor. I could go on but I think you can get the picture. She was discharged on 17th Nov 1892 as "recovered" following a four week trial release period with favourable reports. Judging from the medical records covering her time as a patient it seems she had improved but in my opinion far from recovered.
Now it gets confusing. I cannot find her on any subsequent census, GRO death index, burial records at least as far I can see and whilst I find it unlikely anyway, no marriage entry. Interestingly, her brother, Harry and his wife had a child, also named Ella born in deal on the 5th Sep 1892, ten weeks before Ella's discharge. I applied for the birth certificate and it states Harry and his wife were the parents but it still seems rather coincidental to me. Saying that, the birth does fall into natural sequence with Harry's other childeren. Could she in fact have been Ella's illigitimate child, the asylum no longer wanted her or the child so discharged her? Harry then taking the baby as his own and registering her as his own? There is no mention however, of a pregnancy in the medical records but I think would probably be omitted if it was the case. Young Ella died a spinster in Deal, 1982. I have tried tracing living relations with limited success.
Can anybody help with ideas/suggestions for possible leads into finding out what became of Ella. I keep coming back to it with a fresh mind but still go round in circles. It's such a sad case when you read the whole story but what, I wonder, is the whole story?
Many thanks
Nimrod
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There is an E PARKER age 44 listed as a lunatic (but married :-\ ) no place of birth given, in the London Lunatic Asylum, Coulsdon
RG13/635 folio 114 page 3
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What a sad story...given her medical history it's possible she ended up as one of those poor souls noted in the Parish Registers simply as Unknown found dead in the street/on the beach/in a field.
Re young Ella, I grew up in Deal & remember a Miss Parker who lived opposite us, & I think died about the same time as your Ella. Could be the same person, what, if anything, do you know about your Ella?
Betty
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Hi Bearkat,
Thank you for pointing this out. It's possible she is my Ella. The fact that she's married leads me to think probably not but it might pay me to check if medical records from Coulsdon are available to confirm one way or the other.
Many thanks
Nimrod
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Hi Betty,
I have thought along simillar lines myself especially as she was prone to delusions and calling herself by all kinds of fanciful names although they don't list exactly what in her medical reports. She did have a lot of family in Deal so if she died there I feel they would have known who it was. Anywhere else however, is a different matter. Maybe she did simply wander off never to return. I have no idea how the family felt about her, whether they were caring or ashamed and turned their backs. The 1871 census shows her living in Deal with two ladies by the name of, Fearnley. What connection they had, if any to the family I can't say and why was she living with them anyway and not at home?
Re young Ella. Goodness me, this could prove amazing should it be the same person you lived opposite. Her death certificate says she was retired state registered nurse and registered midwife of 10 Church Path. The informant was one Caroline Milway, neice in law of the same address. Unfortunately, Caroline died ten years later. However, I have traced whom I believe to be Caroline's son. I have yet to contact him to see if he can shed any light on this mystery but somehow I feel everything could have been hushed up.
Nimrod.
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Hello NIMROD
Some information from the Deal and Walmer Parish records which you may or may not find of use. I can find no record of any marriages of George & Susanna's children in any of the Deral or Walmer churches, nor any baptisms mentioned.
St Nicholas Church, Sholden 14/10/1851 George PARKER, Butcher of Deal, son of David PARKER, Butcher
married Susanna WELLARD of Sholden, daughter of Richard Henry WELLARD, Farmer
Susannah PARKER died 17/12/1898 and was buried at St Andrew's
Children baptised, all at St Andrew's Church, Deal
1/8/1852 Richard John 29/3/1857 Herbert
22/6/1853 Harry 28/3/1858 Arthur
13/10/1854 Annie died 30/10/1854 9/12/1859 Ella
4/11/1855 Edwin 28/7/1861 Edward
The only possible baptism for any of this family after the above is at St Andrew's 17/12/1898 Annie PARKER d/o Harry & Emma
While offspring may have been born in Deal, it is possible they were baptised in another town.
Hope this is of some small help
Regards
AJ
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Hi AJ,
Thank you indeed for this info. I knew of these offspring but not the dates of baptism so it really is a great help. Arthur was my Great grandfather. Again, I knew the year in which Susanna died but not the exact date. More detail to enter in my family file for which I thank you.
Nimrod
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Hi Nimrod
I couldn't think of 'my' Miss Parker's first name yesterday, but my memory kicked in the early hours of this morning ;D Her name was Violet, so of course not the same person. She had a brother called Joe.
A shame we can't make the connection :(
Betty
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Hi Betty,
What a shame, it looked quite promising there for a while. The answer to Ella Snr probably lies somewhere but I think in the end I will have to admit defeat and throw in the towel. A appreciate your reply.
Nimrod
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Hi Nimrod,
I stumbled across your posts regarding Ella Parker, and I'm guessing we must be related, she was my Gt,Gt,Gt Aunt, and my line of the family also descened from Arthur Parker (my Gt Gt Grandfather), unfortunatley I have had the same trouble as yourself in tracing Ella after her discharge from Chartham in 1892, to be honest I'm at a loss to know what to do next, I've spent years putting the family tree together and no matter how hard you try there always seems to be holes in it. I realise you havn't beenon this forum for 2 years or so but I'm hoping you will get in touch soon, who knows there must be a way forward.
Regards
Mark