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I wonder if anyone can help me to find the orphanage to which 4 boys (Alfred Bond, Arthur Bond, William Bond and George Bond) were sent in 1862 on the death of their mother Sarah Keturah Bond at Hallow Worcester.
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Hello and a very warm welcome to Rootschat ;D
As a starting point and to help others who will assist in trying to find the boys here are the family in the 1851 census living in Hallow Village, Hallow, Worcestershire. RG9/2087/F42
Sarah Keturah Bond. Widow of Cordwainder. 36. b. Burford Shropshire
Alfred Edward. 9. Son. b. Burford, Shropshire
Arthur Theodore. 7. Son. b. Burford, Shropshire
William Frederick. 4. Son. b. Hallow, Worcestershire
George Thomas .2. Son. b. Hallow, Worcestershire
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The City & County Orphan Asylum, St John's Worcester may have been a possiblity although the boys are not listed as being pupils there on the 1871. There is an entry for a nurse-child in the 1871 for a George Bond aged 12 born Harlow, Worc. in the family of Richard Hinch and his wife Ann RG10/3043/F if is this of interest to you
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Hello and a very warm welcome to Rootschat ;D
As a starting point and to help others who will assist in trying to find the boys here are the family in the 1851 census living in Hallow Village, Hallow, Worcestershire. RG9/2087/F42
Sarah Keturah Bond. Widow of Cordwainder. 36. b. Burford Shropshire
Alfred Edward. 9. Son. b. Burford, Shropshire
Arthur Theodore. 7. Son. b. Burford, Shropshire
William Frederick. 4. Son. b. Hallow, Worcestershire
George Thomas .2. Son. b. Hallow, Worcestershire
Hello and welcome to RootsChat
I think the census Captain2 has given is 1861 -not 1851?
I wonder if they did go into an orphanage ? Do you have any definate information that they did??
It seems by 1871 Alfred Edward was in Shrewsbury working as a baker's assistant, Arthur Theodore was in Craven Arms Salop working as a boot boy at the craven Arms Hotel,William Frederick was in Hallow at Hallow Green Malt House working as a bakers assistant , and it seems George Thomas was a nurse child with the Flinch family in hallow
maybe they lived with local people?? Caroline Morgan who was a lodger with the Bond family in 1861 (along with her young son) married james Pugh in 1862 and stayed in Hallow -maybe they helped out ??
Have you found Grandparents and aunta and uncles and ruled them out???
Suz
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:-[ Sorry ! yes it should have read 1861. I was hoping backward and forwards... (as you do) ..
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:-[ Sorry ! yes it should have read 1861. I was hoping backward and forwards... (as you do) ..
I know exactly what you mean - I put my son's birth down as 1875 the other week LOL!
Suz
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Many thanks for your replies. Arthur Theodore was my wife's great grandfather and she believes that he was in an orphanage in Liverpool or Manchester from the age of about 10. He fathered a son in 1877 (also named Arthur) but unable to find mother or location. He was married in 1879 to Eleanor Jones in Highbury London.
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Why do you think he was in an orphanage in lancashire???
If you could give any more information it may help us find where he was??
Suz
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The 1879 marriage
10 September St Augustine's Church, Highbury
Arthur Theodore Bond, full age, bachelor, Signal-man, residence Swansea, father William Bond, Shoemaker (deceased)
Eleanor Jones, full age, spinster, no occ, 2 Balfour Road, Highbury New Park, Jonathan Jones, Tailor & Draper (deceased)
After banns
Witnesses: Eliza Davies & William Arthur Jones
It will be almost impossible to find an illegitimate birth in the index unless you know the mother's surname.
Dawn
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Baptism
St Mary Islington
28th October born 11 April 1877
Arthur Theodore son of Arthur & Eleanor JONES, of Sebbon Place, fathers occ Railway Guard
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Thank you dawnsh... It seems Arthur was the son of Eleanor although not married at that time. Its odd though that he does not appear on the 1881 census with Arthur Theodore and Eleanor just their daughter Rebecca.
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captain 2..... thanks for the info about Richard and Ann Hinch - I guess that a "nurse-child" was like a foster child. I will try to follow this up as George Thomas Bond disappeared between 1861 and 1881.
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reply No.3 - thanks Suzard, it seems that the boys were not in a orphanage after all. My reason for this idea was that Arthur Theodore who lived to 96, told my wife, his Great Granddaughter, in the 1940s, that he was once in an orphanage. Perhaps he was just after sympathy!
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Hello tanuki, referring particularly to my family research 'nurse child' was a child that had been placed in care and was then 'fostered' out, of course I cannot say with any certainty that this is the case for George in 1871 - just a thought - if this is the correct George in 1871 - there are two George Bond's born in Hallow one is aged 14 and an apprentice tailor and the second as I have listed, aged 12 which is the one I have followed here - then this may be George with his wife Mary in 1881 (which is free to search) RG11/2915 at 1 Cherry Tree Walk, Worcester. George is 22 & Mary 23.
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reply No.13, Thank you Captain 22, the information about George and Mary Bond at Chreey Tree walk is very interesting as the age is right to be Arthurs brother.