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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: ELLMAY on Thursday 24 September 09 20:33 BST (UK)
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Looking for help locating any information about the Mc Coy family of Glaslough County Monaghan My Great Grand father William Mc Coy was born there in 1841 to Robert Mc Coy
[ Mothers name not known ] a farmer . William emigrated to the UK he appears on the 1961 Census in Liverpool . He subsequently moved to Tyneside where he died in 1918
Any help or suggestions as to how to research the family would be appreciated
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19th Nov 1838 Robert McCoy, Lennaght, Married Jane McCoy, Killygavna at Tydavnet Church is the nearest I can find witnesses Joseph McCoy + James McCoy...........5th July 1841 Baptism of William son, Robert + Jane McCoy [nee McCoy], Killygavna ..........11th Jan 1849 Mary dau, Robert + Jane McCoy [nee McCoy], Killygavna....7th April 1852 Robert son, Robert + Jane McCoy [nee McCoy], Killygavna......Burial/Death 16th Oct 1885 Jane McCoy wife of Robert, Killygavna age 70.
Not Glaslough I know but based on your names/dates!!
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Hallmark
thank you very much for that info I mentioned Glaslough in my posting as my starting point it is given as the place of birth for both my gt grd and his wife Mary on the 1911 census . Forgive my ignorance but are Killygavna /Tydavnet in monaghan ?? could it be the birth / marriage registration district ?? what denonination were this family ??
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Yes Tydavnet Church of Ireland is in north Monaghan...also called Tedavnet. It is not far from Glaslough.
You will also need to look at alternate spellings such as McKay etc.... If you Google Tydavnet or Tedavnet you will get information on the area.
Also Google Ballinode/Bellanode village. Lennaght ..Killygavna
If you look at the top of the Census return page "House and Building Return" you will see it is in North Monaghan etc...then read the electoral area PLU etc...no wonder it confuses everyone!!
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Hallmark
Thank you for that info I will have look at the sites you mention and see what it turns up
once again thanks for your help
ELLMAY
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You won't find much in the way of records but even doing a Google for Tydavnet and then searching for "McCoy" within the results might throw up something!
I did that with my names and got some "bits".
Best of luck
Dave.
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Dave
thanks I was googling last night and found A lot of info so will have a google tonite again
Bryan
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The McCoys of Killygavna all attended the Church in Ballinode (Tydavnet Parish). I see the birth of William on 5thJuly1841 to Robert & Jane McCoy, also the other births - James in 1846, Mary in 1849 & Robert in 1852. Mrs Jane McCoy was originally a McCoy (maiden name). There were several McCoy families living at Killygavna, which incidentally also had a school where I was a teacher - Brownhill National School.
Any more data you require - you will find my hundreds of postings in all the Ancestry websites under my name - Jack Storey.
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Thanks for the information jack I will certainly research some of the other sites you mention .The William Mc Coy you noted would appear to be my great grandfather who subsequently emigrated to England and ended his days in County Durham in 1918 Once again thanks for your help.
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Just working on Dudgeons and came across this; Tedavnet; 3rd Jan 1843 William Dudgeon Married Mary McCoy, Killygavna witnesses were William McCoy + Thomas Mason, seems the McCoys crop up a bit on my tree as on 20th June 1901 William Birch son, Thomas William Birch, Rarutagh, Donagh Parish, Married Jane McCoy dau, William McCoy, Killygavna and the Kiilygana McCoys also connect to a few others on my tree...only on peripheral lines though.
19th Nov 1838 Robert McCoy, Lennaght, Married Jane McCoy, Killygavna witnesses Joseph McCoy + James McCoy.
The birth on 11th Jan 1849 Mary dau, Robert + Jane McCoy [nee McCoy], Killygavna shows that Robert McCoy married Jane McCoy hence my usage of [nee McCoy], the 5th July 1841 Baptism looks like your William! So you have a brother and sister for him.
Another McCoy/McCoy marriage in Tedavnet; 14th April 1837 John McCoy, Killygavna Married Elizabeth McCoy, Killygavna so they look like a close family!! ;D ;D
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Dave
thats great it looks as though the Mc Coys were plentiful in that area and it certainly helps in my research to establish a brother and sister for William .Thank you for your help
Bryan
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Plentiful is one word for it... ;D
Even your addtional data is helpful, knowing he went to Liverpool etc. Doing my extended lines the McCoy name pops up so many times.
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Dave
The Dudgeon name has not cropped up in my research so far although one of my brothers had a close friend named Jimmy Dudgeon in our Hebburn Tyne and wear home town .If it would be of any help I could find out as much as I could
Bryan
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Thanks, The Dudgeons are the easy part as there are living relatives still in Monaghan...wonder if your Jimmy was one of them! It would be interesting to find out.
I have most of them but haven't spent too much time on them as I can get all the lines, as a result I don't even have them all on my tree yet! ::). at least there is that Dudgeon/McCoy of Kiilygavna connection.
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Dave
When I see my brother I will see if he has any info about Jimmy, the Mc Coy links on your tree are interesting as you say meanwhile I will plod on with my research
Bryan
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Well you now have the mother's name! You may not get back much further as church records only start around then, maybe back to 1800, which may get you the parents of Robert and Jane. With the marriage in 1838 you would be looking for a birth for them about 1815 era.
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Dave
With Jane being born in 1815 and assuming Robert to be maybe a couple of years older that is going to be the next stage of my search and see what I can come up with
Bryan
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Bryan
RE Birth;7th April 1852 Robert son, Robert + Jane McCoy [nee McCoy], Killygavna
He died on 16th Feb 1873 and buried in Tydavnet.
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Dave
Thanks again for the additional information , I have not had any luck locating Roberts [ the husband of Jane ] birthdate up to now , but being honest I have not done much work over the festive season
Once agagin thanks for your help
Bryan
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Well at least it saves you looking for the Robert who died...I was doing my Hall line and see McCoys married Hall, doing the Dudgeons the McCoys came in here etc but I haven't done the McCoys yet but families are connected so much between each other it is like a spider's web with all the connections.
Did William emigrate alone or with siblings?
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Dave
I believe he emigrated alone as far as I can tell , I picked him up in Liverpool when he was 20 years of age in Liverpool on the 1861 Census working as a Dock labourer and living in lodgings . I believe he married a Mary Ann Bethel in 1864 in Gateshead Tyne & Wear and he appears in the 1881, 1891 , 1901 , & 1911 census in this area working in the chemical copper works industries in the area .He died in 1918 and I am decended from his son Robert my grandfather.
Bryan
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Thanks Bryan, must keep any eye out on his siblings...they probably married McCoys!!! ;D ;D
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Dave
Marrying Mc Coys seemed to be a popular pastime with Mc Coys but it makes it a little more difficult tracking them I am still trying to get to Roberts parents assuming him to have being born around 1815 ish . It certainly keeps your mind active.
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Hello,
My GG Grandmother was Mary McCoy. She married Patrick Cassidy and settled in Emyvale, Monaghan. The Irish Census records state that she was in born in Monaghan. I found a birth record for a Mary Jane McCoy in the parish of Donagh born in 1848 which would match up to her estimated age from the census records. The parents are listed as George and Mary Ann McCoy. I also found a Robert McCoy with the same parents but in the parish of Errigal Truagh born 1842. Any help with these McCoys would be much appreciated.
Rory
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Rory
GGt Grandad Was Robert Mc Coy of Lennaught Married Jane Mc Coy Killygavna on 19th Nov 1838 [ She was also called Mc coy before they married ]. Witnesses were Joseph Mc Coy and James Mc Coy My Gt Grandad William was baptised 5th July 1841 to Robt And Jane His siblings were Jane baptised 11th Jan 1849 , Robert baptised 7th April 1852
Gt Granmother Jane burial / death 16th Oct 1885 aged 70 years which would mean she was born in 1815 . I have been unable to trace Gt Gt Grandad Robert further back than his marriage in 1838 ie his birth / death I am still looking. I don't know if this info helps your research or not, but keep in touch if we are linked in any way OK
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It seems that there is a connection but I have yet to map it out... I am told my McCoy's are from the townland of Doogary. The records I found were for Corraghbrack which is next to Doogary. I found George McCoy married to Mary Neely, their children were Robert b.1842, Margaret b.1843, William b.1844, Mary Jane b.1848. (Whom I believe to be my GGGM)
The townland your Jane McCoy is from, Killygavna, is also next to Corraghbrack. There is a William McCoy and family living there on the 1911 census. Do you know if this is your line?
With the close proximity and common given names I'd say the two families are related. Perhaps Jane and George were siblings or cousins.
Where is Lennaught?
Thanks for the help.
Rory
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Rory
I will have another look at the work I have done so far and get back to you asap about Lenaught etc Hopefully it will be a breakthrough for me as I cannot get back further than 1838 for my GG grandad although as I explained my GG grandmother Jane Mc Coy was born in 1815 .
Bryan
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"I am told my McCoy's are from the townland of Doogary. The records I found were for Corraghbrack which is next to Doogary. The townland your Jane McCoy is from, Killygavna, is also next to Corraghbrack"
I don't wish to contradict you but merely assist you, Killygavna/Killygavney isn't next to Corraghbrack. Corraghbrack is in Donagh Parish.
Killygavna/Killygavney and Doogary/Doogry are next to each other South West of Emyvale.
Killygavna/Killygavney is in Tedavnet Parish and actually in Tedavnet Village opposite the RC Church, as is Doogary/Doogry and there are at least 10 townlands in between Corrabrack and Doogary/Doogry.
Corrabrack is North West of Emyvale.
As the crow flies they are 5 miles apart! there is a lot of misinformation out there so one needs to be careful.
"With the close proximity and common given names I'd say the two families are related.".... they are not in close proximity! Sorry to disappoint you but they weren't neighbours!
See www.logainm.ie for maps - one showing Tydavnet with Doogry, Killygavna/Killygavney, the other showing Corrabrack which is up the hills of North Monaghan
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Thank you for the assistance, that's why I'm here asking the questions... Maybe you can help me make sense of this.
First my confusion came from the fact that there is a Corraghbrack townland on googlemaps that is next to Doogary and Killygavna. However I am looking at the transcripts from the birth records I have and you are correct, it lists Corraghbrack in the Parish of Donagh. The only land record of any McCoy there is a Peter McCoy on the 1833 Tithe Applotment records.
I found a George McCoy on the Griffiths valuation in Killygavna along with Joseph, William and Robert. Robert was also found on the townland of Doogary.
My main problem is I have few pieces of information. What I know to be facts are my GGGM was a McCoy, she was born in Monaghan, she lived in Emyvale and she is said to be from the townland of Doogary.
Thanks again,
Rory
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Are you sure it is Corraghbrack and not Corraduff as it is next to Doogary?
If you want I can download map, mark the townlands and send it to you if you want to PM me with an email address....then I can delete it and you can pass it on if anyone else needs it!
I'm not sure how many McCoy records you have but if you have a few you'll see how complicated they are..the earlier posts show how confusing they are..my g gran was a Dudgeon..Dudgeons married McCoys...my gg aunt was a Birch, they married McCoys and Halls..my Halls married McCoys..McCoys of Killygavna married McCoys of Killygavna, etc then descendants of these families intermarried.
Have you got a death cert for her?