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Title: William H. Dormer
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 24 April 12 19:43 BST (UK)
I'm looking into an ancestor of a colleague. William Henry Dormer born 1897 in South County Dublin. He is believed to have served  with the South Irish Horse. The only record I've located so far is a medal card which fits... Could someone decode the details or suggest where to search for further details on William ?

William H. Dormer

 Corps/rank/reg no.
 S. Ir. H. / pte / 1142
 C of Hrs / /  74090

 Medals/Roll/page
 Victory / CY/141 B / 3102
 British / " / "
 15 Star / CY 2 B / 787

  Theatre of was first served in 1.
  Date of Entry therein : 22.11.15

  remarks  :  AS/CC/460
  B.104-117  04[?] 4-12-23 (1915 Star)
 
  Also included is an address which fits the area his family lived.

There's a medal card for another William Dormer without the middle initial with seemingly similar service..

p.s. William survived the war and married later in Dublin.

thanks,


Shane
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 24 April 12 21:11 BST (UK)
Shane theres pension records for a William H Dormer pre ww1 records he was a cavalryman on Ancestry about 40 pages! was in a bit of trouble every now and again!!
Family wise I think mum lived in Wilsden
His number was 3043
He definately served in Dundalk

EDIT Dont think this is your man see next post

Ady
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 24 April 12 21:27 BST (UK)
Did he have a brother called George?
Theres a George Dormer enlisted in South Irish Horse number 1143 (next bloke after this  William) in 1914 discharged in 1915 due to sickness
He is on Silver War Badge Roll

The Cavalryman whos record is on ancestry definately from london area.

Ady
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 24 April 12 21:36 BST (UK)
thanks for that I'll check it out further...

at first glance though it doesn't seem to fit - the Dormer family I'm chasing were based in South County Dublin.. dont think they moved. I thought William Henry Dormer would be an uncommon name!

William parents were Edward and Margaret, and he did have an elder brother named George born 1890. William and all his siblings were born in Co. Dublin but his father was born in India - so think there may be a military connection there at some point further back



Shane
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: mmm45 on Tuesday 24 April 12 22:01 BST (UK)
Yes the record on ancestry(theres two sets both pre war end about 1902) so they are red herrings and id disregard

the two Medal Index Cards 1142 and George 1143 to SIH show they both enlisted together at same time so at least you have an enlistment date.

Ady
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: shanew147 on Wednesday 25 April 12 10:42 BST (UK)
thanks for the references - have located the details for George 1143 from the Silver War Badge record and Medal card. He signed up 5 Sept 1914, so presumably William H. signed up the same day.



S.
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: Vaugh on Monday 07 May 12 22:28 BST (UK)
Hi Shane,
William had another brother, Edward Errington (called Eric) Dormer SIH number 1172, was born in Dublin in 1895, passed away in 1975, at the age of 80. Drop me an email and I'll give you the full SP on him, the above information came from Eric's granddaughter Tracy.  ;)
All the best
Doug
www.southirishhorse.com
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: shanew147 on Tuesday 08 May 12 11:51 BST (UK)
thank you.

I've pm'd you my email address



Shane
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: begleym on Monday 27 October 14 11:42 GMT (UK)
G'day guys,

The gentlemen you are talking about are my Great Uncles, I am told that their father (Edward) marched the three eldest brothers of the Dormer family down to the recruiting office on the first day of the war in 1914 with one of their cousins along for luck.

Shane, you were right about the Indian connection with Edward. His father joined the 3rd Battalion 60th Regiment in Dublin in 1855, and they then moved out to India where Edward and two sisters were born. On a side note Billy Connolly's Great Grand father (Doyle from Hollywood) joined the battalion at the same time and went out to India too.

My Grandfather was Arthur Dormer William's little brother.

Max
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: RRTB on Sunday 20 September 15 20:33 BST (UK)
Just joined this forum because I came across this thread. The "W. Dormer" referred to earlier was my grandfather William Russell Dormer. He was I believe a cousin of Eric.

My grandfather joined the SIH in 1916 as a private, and was in the cavalry on his horse "Napoleon". In August 1917 he was retrained as an infantryman when the squadrons were dismounted, and was captured on March 21 1918. Sent eventually to a POW camp in Sclayn in Belgium, he and his fellow prisoners finally walked free after the Armistice and wended their way back to the Allied lines, running into the Canadians on the way.

Because he had not joined up in 1914 he was not eligible for demob immediately after the Armistice and was sent to Damascus as part of the Egyptian Expeditionary Force for some time until his demob became permitted.

Some of the letters he wrote back to his parents while on his return to Dun Laoghaire (Kingstown as it was then) are in my possession, and if you read between the lines you can see just how affected he had been by his experiences.

RRTB.
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: RRTB on Tuesday 09 August 16 21:15 BST (UK)
I've been looking through the details of my grandfather's WW1 things again this evening and I noticed a reference to W.H. Dormer who turns out to be my grandfather's cousin. My grandfather's father was George Abraham Dormer who was married to Kathleen. They lived in Kingstown. I was unaware that George had a sibling who was the parent of William Henry.

RRTB

Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: jim1 on Tuesday 09 August 16 22:48 BST (UK)
Best to start a new topic on the relevant board rather than on this old WW1 post.
Title: Re: William H. Dormer
Post by: RRTB on Wednesday 10 August 16 00:08 BST (UK)
Thanks Jim, but all I was actually doing was adding that little bit of info. It looks like the OP isn't actively connecting with this thread any more anyway, which is why I didn't start a new thread.

RRTB