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Title: dublin passenger lists
Post by: lisamc10 on Friday 20 April 12 14:50 BST (UK)
can anybody tell me where i can view a ferry passenger list for the 1944/45 from dublin to morecombe please?
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 April 12 14:51 BST (UK)
Southern Ireland and the UK was all part of a free travel area at that time, so there are no passenger lists.



Shane
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: lisamc10 on Friday 20 April 12 14:52 BST (UK)
thanks shane
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: myluck! on Friday 20 April 12 18:08 BST (UK)
There were several companies working out of Dublin at that time but I am sorry I don't know where to source information on them; The Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. was one
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: aghadowey on Friday 20 April 12 18:10 BST (UK)
There were probably a lot of companies but passenger lists weren't kept.
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 20 April 12 18:17 BST (UK)
I think the best known ferry here to run across the Irish sea from Dublin would have been the Mail Boat. Ran from DĂșn Laoghaire to Hollyhead, where the train to Euston station, London waited to meet it.. or more accurately to meet the most important cargo i.e. the mail.

As far as I know it was was run by a subsidiary of British Rail ?

I'm sure there were ferries to Liverpool also, but any of them would have been near to a railway to allow travel on to Morecambe.



Shane
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: lisamc10 on Friday 20 April 12 20:42 BST (UK)
im persuming they entered morecombe as they settled in lancaster and morecombe would of been the closest ferry port to lancaster,i was just curious as to who else came with the people im looking for.
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: Gary Deering on Monday 14 May 12 05:57 BST (UK)
There was a list & photographs (security because of the war), There was something on the radio on Talking history on newstalk about it about 2 years ago. I contacted the lady on the show to see if my Gran Father was on the list & he was not :( , If I remember right she was based in Maynooth university, hope this helps Gary
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 14 May 12 06:12 BST (UK)
Under the Defence of the Realm regulations there were immigration controls between Ireland and GB from 1939 till around 1947. You needed a national identity card or passport to travel on all routes (including those from Northern Ireland). However, as Aghadowey has said, there were no passenger lists (even then) and no records of the passengers exist today.
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: lisamc10 on Monday 14 May 12 15:17 BST (UK)
thank you for the replys.

so its not possible to find out wich year my family arrived in lancaster/morcombe ?
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Monday 14 May 12 15:23 BST (UK)
There will not be any records based on shipping. You might find them in the local voters register and work out roughly when they arrived from that.
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 14 May 12 15:24 BST (UK)
Sometimes it's possible to deduce approximately when a family moved to a new location by checking places of birth on census returns. E.g. say the father, mother and two eldest children give their place of birth as Ireland, and the 3rd child has a place of birth of Lancaster/Morcombe - then you can say they arrived sometime between the births of their 2nd and 3rd child.



Shane
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: lisamc10 on Monday 14 May 12 15:35 BST (UK)
thanks for the replys

i know on the 1939 census there still in ireland and i believe they may of came over for a wedding in 1945 and settled in lancaster.

they didnt have any more children when they moved over here.

lisa.
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: shanew147 on Monday 14 May 12 15:48 BST (UK)
Unfortunately the dates in this case are too recent for census returns - the 1939 Dublin record is from an Electoral register.

As Elwyn mentioned you may be able to locate the adults on the local Electoral Register. As far as I know you usually need a specific address to be able to search these records ..


S.
Title: Re: dublin passenger lists
Post by: lisamc10 on Monday 14 May 12 16:14 BST (UK)
11 george street is the last adress i have for them on the 1939 census.