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Title: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Thursday 19 April 12 10:30 BST (UK)
id be realy greatfull if anybody could find me further information on clara and daniel atkinson who both died dec 1948 in lancaster,im hoping somebody could find a newspaper article with details of there death etc or even locate where they are berid

thanks in advance .
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: tina morana on Thursday 19 April 12 10:36 BST (UK)
Hi can't find them in BMD's 1948 Lancashire.
I was hoping to pinpoint a rego area and get their ages.
Soz

Tinam
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Thursday 19 April 12 10:40 BST (UK)
hello tinam

thank you for the reply,22 eastham street is the last adress i have for them of the 1939 electoral role,i believe its in lancaster not sure where sorry .
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: tina morana on Thursday 19 April 12 10:48 BST (UK)
Hi  :)
Eastham St is still there right in the middle of Lancaster.
Have you any idea when they were born?
It could help tracking their deaths.
There's one for Clara but it's in the West Riding..

Tks

Tinam
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Thursday 19 April 12 10:57 BST (UK)
hi tina,

i belive clara may of been born in scotforth but i cant be positive as its information ive got of ancestry.co.uk,daniel was born in adlington.

its possible sarah and wilfred robinson might of berid them and possibly owened the berial land as sarah was there daughter who payed for and berid several other relatives.



Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Thursday 19 April 12 11:02 BST (UK)
im also looking for a story on william murtagh who died in in garstang in 1965 when the road he was working on collapsed,i believe it was a big story at the time as he was only 32 and left 11 children behind,his wife was called teressa.

thanks in advance
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: tina morana on Thursday 19 April 12 11:12 BST (UK)
Hi
I would suggest you start another post for Wm M, rather than tagging onto this one.
You will get more coverage.
Cheers
Tinam
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Thursday 19 April 12 11:13 BST (UK)
thanks tina.
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: tina morana on Thursday 19 April 12 11:22 BST (UK)
Puzzling
Can't find a marriage for Sarah Atkinson to Wilfred Robinson.

Tinam
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel airey
Post by: lisamc10 on Thursday 19 April 12 11:47 BST (UK)
so sorry just realised what ive done,claras maiden name was atkinson there actualy called daniel and clara airey  ::)

sarah anne airey married wilfred robinson in dec 1931

once again i appoligize.
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: tina morana on Friday 20 April 12 12:15 BST (UK)
No worries mate.
Got the marriage 4th qtr 1931
Lancaster (Anx have Lanchester Durham  ???)
Tinam
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Friday 27 April 12 19:41 BST (UK)
Hi, hope this helps, and as I come from that part of the world can help with other details if needed, although we live abroad now.
Daniel Airey born1886 in Poulton-le-Sands which is part of Morecambe next to Lancaster. His name has been spelt Ayrey in 1901 census.
Date of marriage to Clara Atkinson1906, either at Lancaster Reg Office or in a Catholic church as registrar attended.

If Clara was Catholic, the main church in Scotforth is St Bernadettes, although it is also possible they got married at St Peters, which is the Cathedral.
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Friday 27 April 12 19:47 BST (UK)
Further info is that Clara´s mother was called Sowerbutts
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: tina morana on Saturday 28 April 12 10:58 BST (UK)
Thank you Lynn for your great information.
Lancs OPC have a baptism for Daniel
13.9.1885 Holy Trinity Poulton le Sands
to Thomas fisherman & Sarah
2 Garnet St.

Tinam
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Saturday 28 April 12 11:46 BST (UK)
Hi Tinam,
Looked for burial on Lancaster Family History site, but the Lancaster Municipal Cemetery records only go up to 1932 on there. Regards Lynn
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Saturday 28 April 12 11:58 BST (UK)
 Just had another look at the census.
1891- Thomas born 1863 fisherman
Sarah born 1862
Wilfred Mass stepson 1881
Daniel 1886
In 1901
Thomas sailor
Sarah
Daniel oilcloth worker
Will have a look for Clara later.
Reagrds Lynn
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Saturday 28 April 12 11:59 BST (UK)
thank you very much for that information ladies,it confirms im finaly on the right path as the details you gave me match my tree but heres where my headache starts......
  
daniel and claras daughter sarah married a wilfred robinson in dec 1931 and in september 1932 they had a daughter doreen and when she passed in 1934 wilfred bought her grave plot and paid for her funeral with cash,

daniel and clara had another daughter annie airey born 1921 who married john murtagh in 1945 and in 1946 there first child was still born and was berid with doreen,sarah and wilfreds daughter.

annie lost another child in dec 1952 who was also berid with doreen and when annie died in 1953 she was also berid with doreen.

daniel and clara died in 1948 so why wasnt they berid with doreen as i know there was enought room,i know buy censuses that clara and daniel lived with wilf and sarah.

thanks again .
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Saturday 28 April 12 12:59 BST (UK)
Hi can´t provide any further information on the burial, sorry. Have got information on Clara if you want it, although you may already have it. As an add on to previous post, Daniel´s mother was born in Barrow. Regards Lynn
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Saturday 28 April 12 13:05 BST (UK)
hi lyn

yes please id realy appreciate it.

thanks.
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Saturday 28 April 12 19:46 BST (UK)
Hi again, lots of info, so here goes.
Clara´s parents were William Atkinson and Isabella Sowerbutts who were married at St Mary´s Church. Lancaster on 4th Nov 1854.
Isabella:-
1841
William Sowerbutts 45 Tailor
Mary 37
Thomas 17 gen lab
Richard 13
Jane  11
Rebecca 9
Isabella 7
Hannah 2            Living in Lancaster

1851
William 53 Tailor
Mary 48
Richard 23 Tailor
Jane 21 Cotton weaver
Rebecca 19 Cotton weaver
Isabella 17 Cotton weaver
Hannah 11
Mary Ann 9
Mary Jane 5 days

William Atkinson married Mary Brown in 1822 at St Mary´s Church. Lancaster
William
1841
Mary Atkinson 40
Thomas 15 Mason
Ann 15
Bridget 10
Ellen 5
William 5
Richard 3
James 1 month

1851
William 16 is a boarder at 60 Main Street Skerton. Lancaster and he is a silk piecer.

1861
62 Bridge Lane Lancaster
William 26 Ag Lab
Isabella 26
William 6
Mary J 4
James Atkinson 18 boarder silk piecer

1871
William Atkinson36 Painter lab
Isabella 36
William 16 Painter lab
Mary J 14 Cotton weaver
Alice 10
Catherine 7
Richard 4
Margaret 4 months
William Sowerbutts 72 father-in-law tailor
Mary A Sowerbutts sister-in-law charwoman
Living at 55 Castle Hill Lancaster

1881
William 46 painter lab
Isabella 46
William 26 gen lab
Alice 19 Cotton weaver
Richard 13 Weaver
Margaret 10
Sarah A 6
Isabella 4
Clara 1
Living at 26 Ripley Road Lancaster

1891
William 56 gen lab
Isabella 56
Margaret 20 weaver
Sarah A 16 Weaver
Isabella 14 Weaver
Clara 11
Clara Kenningham granddaughter 8
Living at 34 Edward Street Lancaster

1901
Clara is living with her married sister Margaret Stringer. Their mother Isabella is also living with them together with Margaret´s child Reginia aged 1 and there is also a niece there at the time of census Mary Stringer aged 4 months
Hope this is helpful Lynn
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Sunday 29 April 12 11:39 BST (UK)
thank you so much for that lyn,i realy do appreciate it.

busy day for me today now  :D
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lynnmurray on Sunday 29 April 12 14:21 BST (UK)
I enjoyed doing it, as I had hit a brick wall in my own research. If you find out about the burials let me know as I would like to know the end of the story. Lynn
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Sunday 29 April 12 14:36 BST (UK)
thank you lyn

ive had nothing but brick walls in the past and a few suprises along the way,my mother was always led to believe that sarah ann was infact her gran so for the best part of 6 months we hit nothing but brick walls  untill someone on here sussed that sarah would of been a mother figure to annie with there parents dying so daniel and clara was a bit of a suprise to us all.

i started the tree with my mother just over 2 years ago and sadly she passed last year but im determined to carry on.
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: Barbara.H on Friday 25 May 12 17:25 BST (UK)
In response to your PM Lisa -

Getting there slowly!

From the Lancaster Guardian microfilms in the library:

15th October 1948
In the Death notices
'AIREY October 10th at Royal Lancaster Infirmary, Clara age 69, beloved wife of Daniel Airey'
and small article in same paper
'Death Follows Fall. A few days after being admitted to the Royal Lancaster Infirmary with a fractured femur, Mrs Clara Airey (69) of Eastham St died on Sunday. The injuries were sustained when she tripped over a carpet and fell in the kitchen at her home'

29th October 1948
In the Death notices
'AIREY On October 24th, suddenly, Daniel Airey of 22 Eastham St, aged 63 years. "Re-united" '

No details of funeral unfortunately. I did check the acknowledgements for the next week but nothing.

But now we have dates I can email the cemeteries department on Monday and see if they have anything in the council cemetery records. they'll be closed for the weekend now.

 :) Barbara
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Saturday 26 May 12 09:57 BST (UK)
morning barbara

thank you so much for that barbara,i realy am greatfull for all the information you have taken your time to find for me  ;)

let me know if you have the old pms i sent you about there daughter sarah as in 1934 daniel and clara was at eastham street and the house was owned by sarahs husband wilfred and it was wilfred if you remember who berid and paid for for several of daniel and claras relatives from 1944 to 1953 so im wondering if daniel and clara are also berid in quernmoore.

know im getting confused lol
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: Barbara.H on Tuesday 29 May 12 10:15 BST (UK)
Morning!

Just receive a email from the cemetery to say that Daniel and Clara are buried in the Quernmore Road cemetery in the non-conformist section.
I hadn't got your previous PMs, so I can't remember whereabouts in the cemetery the other family grave was. but I'll send you the details so you can see if they are close together.

Daniel was the grave owner so he must have 'pre-ordered' it.  That's why they aren't in the grave that Wilfred paid for.

Also in the grave with Daniel and Clara there is a Thomas Airey, buried 3rd August 1990, aged 83 years.
Not Daniel and Clara's son, so maybe a nephew?
Another puzzle for you!

 :) Barbara
Title: Re: lancaster look up,clara and daniel atkinson
Post by: lisamc10 on Tuesday 29 May 12 15:50 BST (UK)
afternoon barbara

thank you very much i realy do appreciate all you have done.

just been looking at the plans wich im realy no good with but i think there on the same row but a little further down,as you walk in the main enterance we walked down a little took the first right and my nana annie is right under the large area of trees,she doesnt have a headstone but my mums funeral wreaths are on her grave.

thomas is daniels brother,i found him last week on ancestry.co.uk.

once again barbara thank you for all your help,i realy do appreciate it x