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Title: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: bisjam on Tuesday 17 April 12 19:55 BST (UK)
Looking information on Jemima and Thomas Moore I believe they left Ireland sometime between 1901 and 1911 for Canada. Jemimas Parents were William Lamont and Matty Ann Lamont ( Luke) I know they had one son Thomas but i think he stayed at home with a relative.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 17 April 12 20:50 BST (UK)
Is this the Moore family in 1901? if so, could the son be named John rather than Thomas?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Dunminning/Caralunty/940011
Jacob Moore died 1903 and left farm to son Thomas, etc.
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearchImage.aspx?id=241125

If the above Thomas & Jemima Moore are the ones you are looking for they didn't go to Canada but will wait to hear before posting details about them.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: bisjam on Tuesday 17 April 12 23:17 BST (UK)
I could possibly be wrong on where they ended up. I can't find them on the 1911 census. you are correct the son john moore i think is elsewhere in 1911. but i believe from what i am told they did emmigrate, it could be USA instead of Canada.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 17 April 12 23:25 BST (UK)
Are the Thomas & Jemima Moore you are searching for the ones I found in 1901 Irish census? If so, I have more information.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: bisjam on Wednesday 18 April 12 09:15 BST (UK)
Yes that is them thanks.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 18 April 12 18:37 BST (UK)
In that case, I have found them  :) Looks like Thomas left earlier- see www.ellisisland.org to view N.Y. passenger manifests.

23 Oct.1909 "Columbia" arrived New York from Londonderry, Ireland-
Jemima Moore (transcribed as Jamima), age 29, married
Children: Annie (9), William (7), Jacob (5), James (2 years 6 months), Thomas (11 months).
From Cullybackey; nearest relative in U.K. Jemima's sister Mrs. Eliza Wilson, Drumcon, Rasharkin; going to (husband/father) Thomas Moore, 19 Franklin Ave., Harrison, New Jersey.
They should now be found in 1910, 1920, 1930 and 1940 U.S. census records, etc.

Will ask the Canadian Moderator to move this thread to U.S. board so you won't have to start another one.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 18 April 12 22:15 BST (UK)
a submission to the IGI has Thomas Benjamin Moore and Jemima Lamont death in Oregon but no dates...these are not always reliable but a stepping stone https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9SFM-P8B
death of son John in Ireland which doesn't make sense so there you go... https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/9SFM-PDT

Did you get the marriage Oct-Dec 1899 Ballymena https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYZ3-YQM

You can find them, same site in Kearny Ward 2, Hudson, New Jersey 1910 ( couple with same names of similar age in new York so tread carefully) and I do see Jacob in Oregon 1930 so
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: J.J. on Wednesday 18 April 12 23:36 BST (UK)
If correct family 1930 has them with four more children but not absolutely sure this is yours as you'll need to locate the 1920...should be New Jersey according to oldest son still at home! https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XC9H-P6P
Joseph, Jemima H, Paul F. and Leslie D.

Ah, I was wrong they are already in Clackamas, Oregon 1920 and I give you that clue as the mother & daughter not properly named...and with them is a son John born 1901...
Happy hunting through the censuses https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=UNITED_STATES&recordType=Census

Do see death of Leslie D. at a young age  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3Y9-9JL

and just because I found it just now, perhaps a sister for Jemima, altho mother is "Martha Ann Luke" https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F56T-JJF although may be a stretch as Jemima was born Ballymena
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 16:12 BST (UK)
WW1 Draft - Thomas Benjamin Moore. Born 1st April 1979
Resides RFD # 3 Oregon City, Clackamas, Oregon. Occupation:_ Farmer. Nearest relative:- Jemima Moore.
Tall, medium buildgrey eyes and black hair. No distinguishing marks.
Dated 12 th September 1918

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 16:19 BST (UK)
WW2 Draft - Thomas Benjamin Moore. Born 1st April 1979 Ireland.
Resides 11/2 MI S.E.. Oregon City on Molalla Road.  Clackamas. Oregon.
The mailing address was Route 2-3 B x 32Oregon City. Oregon.
Name and address of person who would always know him at that address was J P Snyder. Route 3. B x 27 Oregon City. Oregon.
Own business. Arable farming.

WW2 draft known as The “Old Man’s Draft” included males 45-64 years of age on April 27, 1942. Registrants were asked for a residential address, but also the name and address of an employer.  Providing the government with a pool of citizens who could help out on the home front.  It doesn't mean these men actually served.

1942

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 16:22 BST (UK)
Jemima Moore - Born  1881 and died May 3, 1954 Clackamas County Oregon,

Burial: Mountain View Cemetery  Oregon City Clackamas County Oregon,
Plot: Section E, Blk 11, Lot, 1, Grave D

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l99/


Sandra

Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 16:24 BST (UK)
Thomas B Moore. Born 1879 and died  August 5, 1946 Clackamas County Oregon.

Burial: Mountain View Cemetery  Oregon City Clackamas County Oregon.
Plot: Section E, Blk 11, Lot 1, Grave A

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l9a/


Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 16:29 BST (UK)
Leslie Dickie Moore11 th September 1916 in Oregon City, OR
and died Death 28 th Auhust 1946 in Sedroo Wooley. Skagit. Washington.
Mother listed as Jemima Lamont.

http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/56C0969BA15062468B2EBE7E8BB27B12

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 16:37 BST (UK)
Looks like Joseph Moore . Born 24 th December 1910 and died September 1984
Last Residence and Benefit -  97038  Molalla, Clackamas, Oregon.

Oregon Death Index:-  Joseph Wil Moore. Born 24 th december 1910 and died 9 th September 1984 Clackamas  - Aged 73 years. Spouse: Ollive
Certificate: 84-16401

Ollive O. Moore
Born 25 th August 1911 and died August 1989
Last Residence and Benefit -  97038  Molalla, Clackamas, Oregon,
SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951)



Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: shellyesq on Thursday 19 April 12 16:38 BST (UK)
It looks like Thomas & Jemima filed for naturalization in Oregon, as noted on this index:  
http://genealogy.state.or.us/
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 19 April 12 16:40 BST (UK)
Good find on the cemetery...I did find that death for Leslie D but not the middle name so that's a great find...He's buried in same cemetery Section E, Blk 11, Lot 1, Grave E
Paul b. 1915 d. Apr. 11, 1956   Plot: Section J, Blk 5, Lot 12, Grave A
and the latest find ( Sandra's) for Joseph W and also his wife Olive http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l9d/
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 17:06 BST (UK)
Possibility for - William Moore
Born 16 th August 1905 and died 1983
Last Residence: 97045  Oregon City, Clackamas, Oregon.
SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)

Oregon Death Index:- William Osc Moore. Born 16 August 1905 and died 27 th December 1983 aged 78 years in Clackamas. Wife Beluah - Certificate: 83-22164

Beulah Moore
Born 17 May 1904 and died September 1971
Last Residence: 97045  Oregon City, Clackamas, Oregon.
SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)



http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l9f/



Burial -  City View Cemetery Salem Marion County Oregon, Plot: Section J

Burial City View Cemetery - http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l9e/




Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 19 April 12 17:13 BST (UK)
The FHS site has that one as a submission born Tennessee https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/MW7M-S84

I'll add this as it came up... marriage Chahalis Lewis Washington for Joseph Moore born Harrison New jersey to Olive Wik ( parents P.O. Wik and Olive Ingerbritsen or Norway)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-663-11238-665-59?cc=1534448
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 17:19 BST (UK)
Something strange with the year of death for Beulah between SSDI and the headstone marker  ???

aaah ok so there were 2 -  "cross-eyed" - will amend.  ;D

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 18:08 BST (UK)
Oregon death index - Jacob Moore. Boprn 9th January 1904 and died 13 th May 1984 aged 80 years in Multnomah. Wife Evelyn
Certificate: 84-08401

Jacob Moore
Born 9 th January 1904 and died May 1984
Last Residence: 97236  Portland, Multnomah, Oregon.
SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)

Sandra
 
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 18:13 BST (UK)
Evelyn Theodora Moore. Born 16 th August 1909 and died 18 th February 1995 aged 85 years Multnomah. Husband - Jacob
Certificate: 95-03632

Evelyn T. Moore
Born 16 th August 1909 an died 18 th February 1995
Last Residence: 97236  Portland, Multnomah, Oregon.
SSN was issued in Washington (Before 1951)

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 20:16 BST (UK)
James Moore. Born Dec 1906 and died 31 December 1975 aged 69 years in Clackamas
Wife  Veryl  - Certificate: 75-18522

James Moore
Born 1 st december 1906 and died December 1975
Last Residence: 97013  Canby, Clackamas, Oregon.
SSN was issued i9n Oregon (Before 1951)

Sandra

Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 20:19 BST (UK)
Wife of the above:-

Veryl LaVelle Howell - Born 31 Aug 1913 in Carver, Clackamas, Oregon.
and died  14 July 1989 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon.

Oregon death index:-  Veryl Lavelle Moore. Born 31 st August 1913 and died 14 th July 1989 Multnomah aged 75 years.
Husband -  James  - Certificate: 89-14063


Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 20:26 BST (UK)
James - Veryl  - Burial Mountain View Cemetery

Plot: Section 1, Blk 6, Lot 6, Grave D

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l9r/

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=39013885

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 20:28 BST (UK)
Sister to the brothers - Jemima Moore/Tomlin  - Middle Name :- Henrietta.

Jemima Tomlin
Born 21 st December 1912 and died 31 st August 1996
Last Residence: 97027  Gladstone, Clackamas, Oregon.
SSN was issued in Oregon (Before 1951)

Sandra

N.B. The youngest daughter on the 1930 census was born 1922, she is possibly still alive and living in Oregon City. OR
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 20:57 BST (UK)
Believe this to be the husband opf Jemima but also think they divorced.  :(


Clayton Tomlin
Born 19 th May 1915 and died February 1984
Last Residence: 97045  Oregon City, Clackamas, Oregon, 
SSN was issued in Oregon (Before 1951)

Sandra


Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 21:01 BST (UK)
US Veterans Gravesites mentions 2 nd wife

Clayton Joseph Tomlin. Born 19 May 1915 and died 3 Feb 1984 - Interment 7 February 1984-  Willamette National Cemetery -  11800 SE MT. Scott Boulevard Portland, OR 97266
Buried At: Section E Site 951
Service Info.: CY US NAVY
Husband of Della, Gloria Rue

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l9v/


Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: bisjam on Thursday 19 April 12 21:27 BST (UK)
Sandra you are a star thank you so much
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 19 April 12 21:52 BST (UK)
Pleased we could all help.
Just a thought - Did notice a John Moore born 1874 Antrim. Ireland - Wife Lizzie also in Clackamas - wouldn't happen to be a brother of Thomas would it ? Children were Thomas, Ina, John, Norman, Willard, Hector James, Angus and Arabell ? They immigrated through Canada and then border crossing St Albans - August 1905. Going to Oregon City. Oregon.  ???

Quite possibly you may only be interested in the Lamont angle though  ;D

Reply 7 - JJ wrote  "perhaps a sister for Jemima, altho mother is "Martha Ann Luke" https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F56T-JJF although may be a stretch as Jemima was born Ballymena"

Which is the one we covered in this thread:- (not a bad memory eh  ;D) http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,589461.msg4403886.html#msg4403886

Sandra

Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: aghadowey on Thursday 19 April 12 23:25 BST (UK)
Reply 7 - JJ wrote  "perhaps a sister for Jemima, altho mother is "Martha Ann Luke" https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F56T-JJF although may be a stretch as Jemima was born Ballymena"
Jemima's sister Sarah Lamont born Portglenone according to earlier topic-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,589461

The County Antrim part of Portglenone is in Ballymena Poor Law Union, so the registration district would likely have been Ballymena. Portglenone (I've been there twice this week and will be through it again on Monday)-Ballymena is only about 8 or 9 miles.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: J.J. on Thursday 19 April 12 23:34 BST (UK)
re: sarah..., there was something like that on the Canada board as well, it sounds familiar...That thread says parents were James Lamont and Sarah Scott though...I don't know because I haven't seen a reply to that from the poster...so I guess I'll turn off notification & get back on to the Canada board now  ;D J.J.

modified for spelling
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 20 April 12 09:45 BST (UK)
Yikes, do need those specs JJ   ::)- Sarah 1873 had a different birth date to the one covered earlier. - that one was 13 March 1880.  Also covered her brother William on same thread - so hopefully they are cousins then  ;D

Sandra
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: bisjam on Saturday 21 April 12 08:23 BST (UK)
thanks sandra. The sarah jj mentions would actually have been a neice of Jemimas even though they were born at the same time.
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: *Sandra* on Monday 23 April 12 21:37 BST (UK)
Thank you for the update bisjam, much appreciated.

Sandra  ;)
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: Johnston mccammon on Wednesday 22 August 12 01:33 BST (UK)
If correct family 1930 has them with four more children but not absolutely sure this is yours as you'll need to locate the 1920...should be New Jersey according to oldest son still at home! https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XC9H-P6P
Joseph, Jemima H, Paul F. and Leslie D.

Ah, I was wrong they are already in Clackamas, Oregon 1920 and I give you that clue as the mother & daughter not properly named...and with them is a son John born 1901...
Happy hunting through the censuses https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&region=UNITED_STATES&recordType=Census
Actually not a stretch. Portglenone is considered part of Ballymena and I think this is her sister. I am working on Martha Mc Cammon and these are her aunts
Do see death of Leslie D. at a young age  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3Y9-9JL

and just because I found it just now, perhaps a sister for Jemima, altho mother is "Martha Ann Luke" https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F56T-JJF although may be a stretch as Jemima was born Ballymena
Title: Re: Jemima Lamont/ Moore thomas Moore
Post by: marserene on Friday 18 October 19 04:52 BST (UK)
These people are my ancestors.  I met John Moore of Ballymena in 1987 in Scottland.

Rick Mooore
Eugene Oregon