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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: Tanya_Arnold on Monday 16 April 12 08:59 BST (UK)
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Joe BUCKLEY 1780 married Lavinia SKIPPER 1780
there son.. Joiner BUCKLEY 1810-1886 married Seni (Sarah) SMITH 1810-1886
then there son.. Carnation BUCKLEY 1839-1916 married Alice SMITH 1839-1921
there dau.. Beatrice BUCKLEY 1882-1955 married George HARRIS 1881-1956
then there dau.. Linda HARRIS 1906-1993 married Olbey (Albert) CHIGNELL 1907-1976
then they had a dau.. Elsie CHIGNELL 1927-2010 married Thomas George ARNOLD 1922-1972
** Olbey CHIGNELL & Linda HARRIS are 1st cousins, Linda's mother was sister to Olbey's mother**
**ALL FROM ESSEX, ENGLAND, APART FROM THE ARNOLD'S, THEY ARE FROM KENT, ENGLAND**
If anyone knows the parents of Joe BUCKLEY or any info on this family then i would love to know. Thank You! :)
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Hi,
I found this and it looks like Joe Buckleys father could be Perun Buckley.
I have copied and pastied the info for you.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=281420.0
Hi just reading posts and have alittle inof on Joiner Buckley from index of Buckland & Buckley names
Starts with Perun Buckley married a really dark woman most likely a LEE their son :
Joe Buckley married to a Skipper, gaji woman from Harwich
they had 4 sons : Joiner Sam Hariam Elijah
Sam Buckley was 1st husband of Seni Smith, he was transported to Jamaica
Seni Smith sister to Treli Frank Cornelius Elijah & Lomas Smith, she died 1886 at Plaistow
Joiner ( nickname Jania) 2nd husband of Seni Smith,
It says Joiner was a wire sieve maker coppersmith bell hanger & repairer of Ag Implements born sometime abt 1780
Hariam Buckley married Peggy Lee they were from Epping forest, thier daughter Britannia Buckley married William Oadley (only daughter) died before easter 1910
Elijah Buckley husband of Elizabeth or Betsy Smith killed after a brawl at Epping Forest while his children were still young ( murdered by Gypsy Stephens in 1933)
his children were
1 Lazzy ( othewwise known as George Smith )
2 Oti ( Oti was known as William Smith )
3 Levaithen
Elizabeth Smith was sister to Jasper Petulengro & Ambrose Smith
After her husbands death she used surname Smith and moved to New England with her 2 sons ?
Lazzy must have stayed in England he married Kerlenda Lee father of Midora Alice Charles Henry Fredrick Margaret Cecilia Ernest Patrick Arthur
Joiner & Seni died 1886 survived by 7 children, Joiner is a name among Buckleys who travel round London
In no order of age :
1 Noah Buckley son of Joiner & Seni he married a Smith.
2 Ganation ( known as Nathan) son of Joiner & Seni
husband of Alice Smith lived at Eastwood born 1839
3 Frank son of Joiner & Seni
1st wife a Williams 2nd wife Agnes Boswell
He was born 1845 lived at Barking in 1910
4 Justinia daughter of Joiner & Seni
wife of Woodlock Smith the evanglelist, deceased by 1910
5 Kiomi daughter of Joiner & Seni
wife of Jimmy Taylor , lived in Canning town
6 Santalina ( Santi) son of Joiner & Seni,
husband to Henrietta Boswell,
Her parents were Levi Boswell & Mary Lee
Santi was father of Penderbella (Pender) he married Clara Lee, with whom he bought a old tram- car furnished it and used it for worship.
Santi was also father to a Peron it says he had more children ,but gives no names.
7 Hercules ( Arkless) known as " Dud" after a nominal marriage to Genti Gray married Sarah Draper he was baptized 1843 horringer Suffolk
there is mention of a Joe son of Peron who married a Biddy girl had at least a couple of children
It then says most of Buckleys still travel to the north of London but some of them crossed into Kent as have their cousins the RHODES & the OADLEYS
All the BUCKLEYS and their offshoots come from a Joe Buckley & a Gaji woman From Harwich
Joe had 4 sons, but only Buckleys on the road today are the descendants of Joiner & Seni wh regard themselves as a very noble bred of Gypies.
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Hi again,
I just thought, it might be easier for you to PM Shushie as she is if I remember correctly related to the Buckleys.
She could possibly help you with your research.
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Hello NettieS,
Thank You so much for all the info!
Thanks but i already know Shushie on facebook :)
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"the" joe buckley son of peron is not the same one you are talking about.
peron did have a son joe, but if you check the age range you will see its not the same person.
according to the GLS, joe who married l.skipper is as far back as they go, no-one that i know of has gone back any further, so you are on "new territory" lol
peron is the son of santalina & hnerietta, who reportadly had 20+ children. perons son joe married emma bignell and they had 8-10 chavvies.
the GLS has 1/2 photos of peron buckley that you can buy prints of but thye casnnot be shared as its against copyright
kushti bok
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This is true Amanda I cannot find any further back. than what we know, suspect thats the time they migrated to here from wherever, if you do happen to find anything Tanya, please please let us know xxxxx
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Hey Amanda, oh okay. I will let everyone know if i do happen to find anything xx
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Hi,
You no doubt have the Buckley's quite well defined but did you know that the earlist ref for Buckley as a Gypsy Surname is in Ireland circa 1563 also in 1782 Cornelius Buckley birth abt1730 was publicly whipped and ordered to do 12 months hard labour for 12 months at Clerkenwell along with James Norton and William Shepard if these masy be unknown or helpful
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7 Hercules ( Arkless) known as " Dud" after a nominal marriage to Genti Gray married Sarah Draper he was baptized 1843 horringer Suffolk
Hi Tanya
Referring to Nettie's quote above, Sarah Draper was my G-G Grandmother and I don't think she actually married Hercules (Dud). But they did live together as a couple and Sarah and Hercules brought my Granddad up between them after his parents split. Hercules used to take my Granddad out when he was a boy with his cart and according to my Granddad Hercules also used the name Arthur Smith.
Hope that info's of interest to you.
Polly
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I hope you don't mind me posting a reply on here - I'm really not sure that the Buckley I'm looking for is related to your Buckley family, but I thought it would be worth a try posting here!
I'm trying to find out about my husband's paternal grandfather, Albert Henry Buckley. We know he was born in around 1921, but do not know where. His mother died either during childbirth, or when he was young, and has his father was unknown (his mother was unmarried) he entered into 'care' (probably more like a workhouse). We think his mother's surname was Buckley and his father's surname was Merryweather - although this could of course be the other way around!
Our Albert died in 1967 at the age of 45, in Middlesex - that we do know for certain. We think Albert was an '8th Army dispatch rider' in North Africa during WW2. After the war we know he lived in Monmouthshire with his partner, Nina Cookes, and had several children with her there. They were not married however, which intrigues me given the social expectations during the 1950's. There is a large gap in the information about them until 1967, which is when Albert died. If anybody has any information that may be useful please do not hesitate to contact me :-)
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just a quick reply. hello dreamangel, sorry that does not ring any bells with my line.
also for any of you on here, (you may already be aware) but there is a meeting this sunday 8th sept at st Laurence & all saints (near eastwood church) church hall in eastwood southend on sea Essex from 12 - 4pm . you may find some connections there. see other thread for details please. :)
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Nettie S
I am interested that you mentioned the Rhodes family. I have Rhodes family from Sussex who married into the Barbers, Deacons and Beeneys to name a few.
Do you know if the Rhodes who are cousins to the Buckleys travelled Sussex/Surrey at all.
William Rhodes a Horse Dealer married Elizabeth Barber and when she died he married Unity Beeney.