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Margaret Ellen Parker, born Dundalk 27 Jan 1830, married Patrick Henry Gilmartin there on 28 Feb 1854 [many thanks to all friends who sent me this info]. I assume they emigrated, and the only 1830 Margaret Gilmartin I have found in US Census had Bridget in 1850 and Catherine in 1852 (variously in Ireland or New York depending which Census you read). Seems unlikely, somehow, these 2 girls were born out of wedlock and later 'adopted' by a Scripture Reader! Were Margaret and Patrick married in a conventicle back in, say, 1849, and they got the marriage properly registered at St Nicholas Parish Church, Dundalk, only in 1854? Or, perhaps, was Margaret already a widow by 1854 - can anyone tell me if the reg entry says?
BTW, is it likely that someone called a Scripture Reader at marriage would thereafter in successive New York Censuses be merely 'laborer'?
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Since this marriage was Church of Ireland it's covered by civil records so you can order a research cert to check the details. A cert should show the reported status at time of marriage for the bride and groom. These are the Index references you need :
Name: Margaret Ellen Parker
Registration district: Dundalk
Event type: Marriage
Year: 1854
Volume: 5 / Page: 384
A similar entry appears for a Patrick Henry Gilmartin, except the page number is 387. It should match if these two names represent a couple - but maybe one of these entries is a typo or mistranscription. Probably best to to mention both possibilities if ordering a cert...
see : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433040.0.html)
Details included on a Marriage Cert (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433042.0.html)
Shane
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The details of the marriage are:
Parish Name Dundalk
Enty No 88
Year 1854
Marriage Date 24/02/1854
Husband Surname Gilmartin
Husband First Patrick Henry
Age 23
Marital Status Bachelor
Occupation Scripture Reader
Address Bridge Street Dundalk
Fathers Surname Gilmartin
Fathers First Name Keeran
Occupation (Fa) Farmer
Wife Surname Parker
Wife First Name Margaret Ellen
Age (Wf) 24
Marital Status (Wf) Spinster
Occupation (Wf) -
Address (Wf) Church Street Dundalk
Fathers Surname Parker
Fathers First Name Joseph
Occupn (Wf Fa) Shoemaker
There is no other information in the register concerning the marriage.
They had a daughter Henrietta, born 18 December 1854, baptised 04 April 1854. The address is only given as "Dundalk" and the father's occupation as "Scripture Reader".
Intriguingly there is a Margaret A. Gilmartin committed suicide at the age of 28 and was buried in St. Nicholas Churchyard in Dundalk on the 27 December 1858.
As for Henrietta Gilmartin above. There is a record of her marriage:
Parish Name Dundalk
Marriage Date 03/09/1880
Husband Surname Hayes
Husband First Michael
Age full
Marital Status Bachr.
Occupation Medical Student
Address Dublin
Fathers Surname Hayes
Fathers First Name Morgan
Occupation (Fa) Farmer
Wife Surname Gilmartin
Wife First Name Henrietta
Age (Wf) full
Marital Status (Wf) Spinster
Address (Wf) Dundalk
Fathers Surname Gilmartin
Fathers First Name Patrick Henry
Occupn. Scripture Reader
Hope that doesn't confuse things too much!
Brendan
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Sorry, I should add that the witnesses in Patrick Henry Gilmartin's Marriage were Robert Rowland & Richard Hobson and the witnesses in Henrietta Gilmartin's marriage were Joseph Parks & Janet Parks. As I say, there are no further comments.
Brendan
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Many thanks to Shane and Brendan for all the excellent info. I managed to follow this line on Ancestry through an Irish surgeon called Hayes who lived in Bradford W Yorks and the trail ends with his two sons who seem to have had no issue and two daughters who I've not found marriages or births for, in the 1920s essentially. So on the one hand it's good to learn that Margaret and Patrick did NOT head to New York, etc., on the other the longed-for hit on memories, photos, diaries, unexpectedly discovered in distant relatives' attics has once more been elusive! Ah well, maybe something will turn up in the end ...
I also got hold of info on Scripture Readers, very important for filling out the spiritual/political background of those deeply orange old Parkers, and came across a fascinating piece about Protestant Irish speakers which was all news to me and I've put up the ref in the General section of rootschat Ireland.
Till the next time ..... Toby