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Long story..
My father john Bradley died in approx 1970 when I was just 5 yrs old, throughout my life I was told little about him and what I was told were lies ( don't know why). I was told he was an only child from ashby and had no relatives, however this has been disproven and I have found a living sibling of his in Newcastle upon Tyne.
So now I'm trying to find my past blind so to speak.. This is what I know so far
John Bradley, born 1921 mothers maiden name Seed, birth registered in Chester le Street.
Dad was the oldest of three brothers *
Grandfather had a sister Emily who married my Grandmothers brother.
my Grandfather John William Bradley, was born in 1899 at Lanchester, County Durham, which is just up the road from Chester le Street.
My Grandmother Margaret Ellen Bradley (nee Seed) born 1902, has her birth registered in Chester le Street.
This is all I can find out, can somebody point me in the right direction please, many thanks in advance
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Hi Chloe, and welcome to Rootschat :D
I'm sure we can help you to find some information about your father. Was it about his life that you wanted to find out, or about his ancestry? The latter may be easier than the former!
As you know your father's parents' names, you should be able to find them on the census returns for 1901 (your grandfather) and 1911 (your grandmother) - the earliest ones they will be on. That will give you (hopefully) their parents' names.
You could also look for the marriage of your grandparents, which will give only fathers' names unfortunately.
Once you have the parents' names you can continue to trace back through the birth and marriage records and the census.
Let me know if I'm on the right track with what you're after ;)
Cheers
Prue
(P.S. I had to remove the names of your father's brothers, as you said they are still living - Rootschat policy).
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Thanks ever so much for you quick response, how do I read census forms and where/which is the best website to use for them...
Not sure what I'm looking for to be fair, guess I'm looking for everything... Well my past.. I feel somewhat cheated
Sorry about mentioning names, was just trying to give all the info I had.. Will go now and read all rules
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Hi Chloe, welcome to Rootschat!
Prue has given you some really good pointers. It is really important that you back up any discoveries with evidence such as birth or marriage certificates.
www.freebmd.org.uk will help you look up reference numbers for ordering certificates from the GRO. For example, in 1921:
Mar quarter (so married in Jan, Feb or March) 1921
John W Bradley married Margaret E Seed in Chester-le-s. (this is the registration district), volume 10a, page 1240
This reference can be used for ordering certs from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp (at a cost of £9.25, which is a lot, but sometimes it is the only way to get conclusive proof)
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As for where to read census forms, they are available on line at a range of places. I guess the most popular are probably www.findmypast.co.uk and www.ancestry.co.uk both of which are subscription, but they have a range of packages depending on what/how you will use the site. I think that findmypast might do pay as you go type packages.
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Hi Chloe
You haven't updated your profile so we don't know where in the world you are.
Apart from the 1881 census which is transcribed at www.familysearch.org , you will have to take out a subscription to Find My Past or Ancestry (or other similar sites) to view details from the other censuses.
We can't do look-ups from the 1911 census due to the terms and conditions of the site but there are hints and tips here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html
But check out your local library to see if they offer free access to either of the sites, many do.
Dawn
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Don't know how much of this info you have:
John W Bradley m Margaret E Seed q1 1921, Chester-le-Street
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Emily Bradley m Henry A Seed q3 1919, Lanchester
There are 3 relevant Bradley births registered in Chester-le-Street between 1921 and 1929 - I'll not put the names of the two younger ones for the reason given above, but the oldest was John.
There was just 1 birth, registered in 1924 in Lanchester, with surname Seed and mother's mn Bradley.
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BTW, have you been in contact with your living relative in Newcastle? Are they able to give you any further info?
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Long story..
My father john Bradley died in approx 1970 when I was just 5 yrs old, throughout my life I was told little about him and what I was told were lies ( don't know why). I was told he was an only child from ashby and had no relatives, however this has been disproven and I have found a living sibling of his in Newcastle upon Tyne.
my Grandfather John William Bradley, was born in 1899 at Lanchester, County Durham, which is just up the road from Chester le Street.
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this looks a possibility for your grandfather (birth reg Lanchester reg district)
1901
3 Blue Row Crook Hall Iveston Durham
John W Bradley head M 41 Police Constable West hartlepool
Margaret J wife 29 Scotland
Maud E daughter 8 Consett
Elizabeth daughter 6 Consett
JOHN W son 1 Consett
RG13 4669 82 4
although I I haven't found a sister Emily??)
Suz
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Hi Annie, Dawn and all, sorry I am really not the best on computers lol.. But I will endeavour to update my profile with the relevant info..
I am just in the process of subscribing to find my past, and ancestory uk.. Will try navigate my way around them later today..
I have spoken to my family members in the NE, but they are elderly now sadly.. I was told some family come from east riding of Yorkshire and others from killcady (sp) in Ireland. I'm originally from Newcastle upon Tyne, but now live in Nottingham uk
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this looks a possibility for your grandfather (birth reg Lanchester reg district)
1901
3 Blue Row Crook Hall Iveston Durham
John W Bradley head M 41 Police Constable West hartlepool
Margaret J wife 29 Scotland
Maud E daughter 8 Consett
Elizabeth daughter 6 Consett
JOHN W son 1 Consett
RG13 4669 82 4
although I I haven't found a sister Emily??)
Suz
Not sure about this lot - they are all together on the 1911, and there doesn't appear to be an Emily
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Hi and welcome to Roots
On the 1901, there is this family living Back Holly Hill Felling Durham
Joseph Bradley b 1870 Ireland, Coal Miner Hewer
Elizabeth Jane b 1869 Ireland
William Bradley b 1891 Felling
Patrick Bradley b 1896 Felling
JOHN BRADLEY b 1898 Felling
Mary Ann Bradley b 1901 Felling
On the 1911 free search there is a Emenly with this family
Margp
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Looking at the free 1911 index, it looks as if Margaret's parents were called John and Sarah Jane Seed (both aged 44) and Harry - Henry? - Seed was aged 3. In which case he married when he was 16ish!
Other children are Ada (19), Ernest (18), Robert (16), William (14), Mary (12), Thomas (6) and Hannah (2).
I wonder if Emily Bradley was a similar age to Harry?
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Hi and welcome to Roots
On the 1901, there is this family living Back Holly Hill Felling Durham
Joseph Bradley b 1870 Ireland, Coal Miner Hewer
Elizabeth Jane b 1869 Ireland
William Bradley b 1891 Felling
Patrick Bradley b 1896 Felling
JOHN BRADLEY b 1898 Felling
Mary Ann Bradley b 1901 Felling
On the 1911 free search there is a Emenly with this family
Margp
Emenly was b 1893
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Ernest Seed (Margaret's brother) died in 1915 and is buried at Brandhoek Military Cemetery http://www.cwgc.org/search-for-war-dead/casualty/430038/SEED,%20ERNEST
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Looking at the free 1911 index, it looks as if Margaret's parents were called John and Sarah Jane Seed (both aged 44) and Harry - Henry? - Seed was aged 3. In which case he married when he was 16ish!
Other children are Ada (19), Ernest (18), Robert (16), William (14), Mary (12), Thomas (6) and Hannah (2).
Here's the family on 1901 census
1901 RG13; Piece: 4703; Folio: 69; Page: 21 (reg. dis Chester-le-Street)
1 Denmark Street Washington
John Seed 34 Stonebridge Durham Iron Moulder
Sarah J 34 Crook Durham
Ada 9 Durham
Ernest 8
Robert 6
William 4
Mary 2
Agnes 10 months
Marriage
Jun 1889 Chester le S vol 10a page 689
John Seed
Name on same page
Sarah Jane Fullerton
1881 census is free to search you will find John Seed with his parents Robert & Mary plus siblings living 4 Margery Lane Durham
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hi back now, god you guys are so helpful.. So much information I don't know how to thank you all... Thanks guys sincerely mean that
Just subscribed to those other two sites, it seems a daunting task a new adventure..
Brings a tear to my eye learning about these people, up till 4 years ago I never even knew they ever existed
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Another of Margaret's brothers has their service records on line - William Seed bn c. 1895, Durham. Height 5ft 6, weight 126lbs, chest 35 inches, pale complexion with blue eyes and dark hair. He was discharged in 1918 to go back to mining. He had previously been working at Washington 'F' Colliery, Durham, and living at 27 Harold St, Washington Station, Durham.
Regiment number 44016, 2nd Battalion, Lincolnshire Regiment
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Joseph Bradley b 1870 Felling Durham
Elizabeth Jane Bradley b 1871 Spenmoor Durham
William Bradley b 1891
Emenly b 1893
Patrick b 1896
JOHN BRADLEY b 1898
Mary Ann Bradley b 1901
Joseph Bradley b 1902
Ralph Bradley b 1904
Fred Bradley b 1908
Elizabeth Jane Bradley b 1910
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Hi Chloe,
Due to copyright issues etc we are not allowed to post details from 1911 census
I think we are all doing a lot of Guessing (myself included in that )
Are you certain Henry A Seed who marrieed Emily Bradley was a brother to Margaret Seed? and are you sure Emily Bradley was sister to John W Bradley???
There is a death reg for henry A Seed age 71 b.c. 1892 death reg Mar qtr 1963 Sunderland 1a 1314
1901 there is a Henry Arthur seed age 9 b. Durham with parents Timothy and Emily
RG13 4676 24 24
????
I think you really need certificates to confirm parents
Suz
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THere are possible deaths for Emily (1963) and Henry (1979) in Sunderland that would tie in with birthdates of 1893 and 1907 respectively.
Redboxed - and yes, I agree that certificates are needed! All this is guesswork without proof at the moment
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mmm.. Emenly b1893 not with family on 1901c
RG13; Piece: 4749; Folio: 44; Page: 22
Joseph, Elizabeth Jane, William, Patrick, JOHN & Mary Ann
your grandfather born 1899 Lanchester
birth entry FreeBMD
John William BRADLEY SEP 1899 Lanchester 10a Vol 357
Can’t see one for an Emily/Emenly Bradley 1893 ???
Alternate spellings: Emilee, Emmalie, Emely, Emili
There is this entry on Free BMD Amelia Bradley Jun 1891 Durham vol 10a page 426
You may need to obtain his birth or marriage certificate to confirm his father's name
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Where do I get the certificates ? Will do that now
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Hi Chloe,
Due to copyright issues etc we are not allowed to post details from 1911 census
I think we are all doing a lot of Guessing (myself included in that )
Are you certain Henry A Seed who marrieed Emily Bradley was a brother to Margaret Seed? and are you sure Emily Bradley was sister to John W Bradley???
There is a death reg for henry A Seed age 71 b.c. 1892 death reg Mar qtr 1963 Sunderland 1a 1314
1901 there is a Henry Arthur seed age 9 b. Durham with parents Timothy and Emily
RG13 4676 24 24
????
I think you really need certificates to confirm parents
Suz
Hi Suz not 100% on this, but I think as long as the person posting the 1911 info as paid for it, they are allowed to post it.
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Where do I get the certificates ? Will do that now
click on the link from Spidermonkey
www.freebmd.org.uk will help you look up reference numbers for ordering certificates from the GRO. For example, in 1921:
Mar quarter (so married in Jan, Feb or March) 1921
John W Bradley married Margaret E Seed in Chester-le-s. (this is the registration district), volume 10a, page 1240
This reference can be used for ordering certs from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp (at a cost of £9.25, which is a lot, but sometimes it is the only way to get conclusive proof)
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Okay think I ordered the right stuff... we will see
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Okay think I ordered the right stuff... we will see
Fingers crossed.... please come back and let us know how you got on when you receive the certificate :)
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Hi Chloe...Here is another useful website for you:
http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
You can search for living people on GenesReunited
Carol
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Hi Suz not 100% on this, but I think as long as the person posting the 1911 info as paid for it, they are allowed to post it.
No, sorry, Rootschat's position is that only information from the free index may be posted.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html
The index is free to search and there are lots of suggestions on this thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html
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Hi Chloe
I know that it is a long time since you posted on here but I'm answering in the faint hope that you get my post. I'm writing because as soon as I started reading the information, I realised that this is my family! Most of the information about the Seed family that was given is correct- I know this as your grandmother was my great aunt and your father and his brothers are my mother's cousins. I knew your grandmother well and have quite a lot of information about the family.
I hope this message gets through to you!!
If it doesn't does anyone know who I contact so that they could perhaps pass on my message to Chloe's email which I know stays hidden.
Catherine
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Hi Catherine, you will need to post two more messages to this thread. After that you can send a Private Message to Chloe, which will go to her through her email address, and hopefully you will get a response from that! So just reply to this message of mine, twice! Then you will have your three messages posted, and can access the Send Private Message button on any of Chloe's posts.
With having such a connection, it's a shame if you can't contact her, I'm sure she will be delighted to hear from you. The only snag I can see is if she has changed her email address from that originally given, as you say it's an old post? But - nothing ventured, nothing gained, so certainly give it a shot!
Just checked her profile, she hasn't actually signed in since 2012, but still reply to this 2 more times and then give the PM message a try anyway! If she has her notifications turned on for replies, she should also get emails re these posts, again that's if her email hasn't been changed, and if she hasn't entered the change. Hope that makes sense!
I have also sent her a PM, telling her she has a Visitor!
Good luck
Jeanne😄