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Title: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Monday 09 April 12 13:11 BST (UK)
My grandfather kept a scrap book.  On cover he wrote his name and address and dated it 1st February 1887.  I have tried to find the address in Belfast Street Directories, but have been unsuccessful.  He wrote: 7 Carnarvon Terrace,
Antrim road, Belfast.  The date is one year before he married and I was interested to find out if he was lodging with somebody or had taken accommodation for himself.
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 09 April 12 13:43 BST (UK)
"Carnarvon Terrace" could be a terrace of houses on Antrim Road - if that's the case then 7 would be the number of the house in that terrace rather than the street number.

If you look at this 1901 directory for Antrim Road you'll see many, many places listed with house names, villas, etc.
http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/acomplete1901.htm
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Monday 09 April 12 16:12 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help.  Unfortunately I still cannot find Carnarvon Terrace on the Antrim Road. 
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 09 April 12 16:23 BST (UK)
Unfortunately it may not be listed as such in directories. Sometimes you can use Google Streetview to find Terraces along a road (name usually above 1st storey at either end/both ends) but Antrim Road is very long and much of it has been rebuilt.
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Monday 09 April 12 19:02 BST (UK)
Thank you  for that.  I will try Google Streetview anyway. 
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: Anthony on Monday 09 April 12 20:56 BST (UK)
Hi. Can you tell us his name, please.

Just got it on the Ulster Covenant lower end off the antrim rd

Anthony
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Monday 09 April 12 21:39 BST (UK)
His name was Samuel Johnston.  He was in early twenties then and married the following year.  Subsequently the family lived on Ravenhill Road and seemed to congregate round that area of Belfast.
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: fadge36 on Tuesday 10 April 12 20:07 BST (UK)
Carnarvon Terrace was part of Hillman Street, near the Antrim Road end. The 1887 street directory gives the occupier of no7 as John Nichol, plumber. So it looks like your ancestor was a lodger there.
The 1890 directory shows Samuel, a bank clerk, at 2 Ravenbank on Ravenhill Road. Many street directories are available online at PRONI website.
In 1901 Census he is at 210 Ravenhill Road(probably the same house) with his wife Florence and 4 children.
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Tuesday 10 April 12 20:25 BST (UK)
Thank you for that!  Yes, the Ravenhill Road Samuel Johnston is my grandfather.  I was interested to find out where he had lodged, as a family story was that he had lodged with his future mother-in-law and thus met his wife to be.  This was not the case and it is interesting to find that he was with someone apparently completely unrelated to him.  When I am next in Belfast, I shall try to find Hillman Street!  It is very good of you to take the trouble to research this for me - thank you again. :)
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: fadge36 on Wednesday 11 April 12 20:29 BST (UK)
You should have no trouble finding Hillman Street.  About 1 mile from Belfast city centre on the right of Antrim Road, facing a large ornate church. There is a mural ' Forest of Belfast' on the facing wall of Hillman Street.
There are still some of the original houses there but it is very likely that the original site of Carnarvon Terrace will have a modern dwelling on it. But you never know.
Best of luck. 
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Thursday 12 April 12 10:08 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help.  I hope to get to Belfast in the autumn and will tour Hillman Street and the Ravenhill Road then.   :)
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: RosemaryJoan on Thursday 12 April 12 11:15 BST (UK)
mysterious g.
Here is the entry from 1918 Belfast Street Directory
..........Ravenhill Avenue intersects
                           Ravenhill Terrace
234. Ross, rev. John, minister Ravenhill Presbyterian Church
236. Stevenson, W., traveller
238. Johnston, Saml., inspector Belfast Banking Co. Ltd.
                           
So he lived a couple of houses along from Ravenhill Avenue
Rosemary Joan
Title: Re: Belfast streets 1887
Post by: mysterious g. on Thursday 12 April 12 23:53 BST (UK)
Thank you!  I know the family lived there for quite a long time and by that time he was a widower with five children (although one daughter was married and away from home).  I think the house was in a terrace called Evelyn Villas, judging by the address in my father's old stamp album.  I am better acquainted with the house my grandfather  eventually moved to.  Thank you for your help.  :)