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Title: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: northern boy on Sunday 08 April 12 11:42 BST (UK)
can anybody help. My Uncle Joseph Smith served in Merchant Navy WW2. One sunk Irish sea and one involved in Dunkirk. Only found 1 photo of Catrine non of Empire Pitt. Or the records of ships logs. If anyone can help that would be good.
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: seaweed on Sunday 08 April 12 12:40 BST (UK)
You need the ships official number to access WW2 crew agreements at National archives, Google CLIP crew lists to find O/Ns I doubt you will find photos of EMPIRE PITT
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: macintosh on Sunday 08 April 12 15:31 BST (UK)
I found this number for Empire Pitt,  official no.180135,  built Sunderland 1944, By Thompsons, Owners - Ministry of War code letters GJJD.

It may well be there are other vessels with the same name.


James
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: GrahamSimons on Sunday 08 April 12 22:40 BST (UK)
If you search the National Archives catalogue for Empire Pitt you do indeed find photos - but probably not the ones you want!

ADM254/12 Examination of corroded boiler tubes from SS Empire Pitt.
Includes 2 photographs depicting: Corroded boiler tubes from SS Empire Pitt: smoke tube showing broad strip of corrosion and oxide scale on surface. Dated 1946.

Other RootsChatters will know whether the other reference is of any value to you as a researcher: BT385/61 Registry of Shipping and Seamen: War of 1939-1945; Index to Logbooks and Crew Agreements Empire Pitt - Empire Star Covering dates 1939 Jan 01 - 1950 Dec 31
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: barryd on Sunday 08 April 12 23:06 BST (UK)
Empire Pitt launched Sunderland 28 JAN 1944. Ran aground 11 NOV 1946 off Berville-sur-Mer, France and written off.
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: GrahamSimons on Sunday 08 April 12 23:14 BST (UK)
"launched Sunderland" got me thinking - it would be worth asking Tyne and Wear Archives if they have a photo. I've found them to be very helpful.
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: northern boy on Monday 09 April 12 08:08 BST (UK)
Thanks for the help. Gives me a few things to look at.
Title: Re: Empire Pitt and Catrine
Post by: seaweed on Monday 09 April 12 14:26 BST (UK)
Quote from: GrahamSimons on Sunday 08 April 12 22:40 BST (UK)


Other RootsChatters will know whether the other reference is of any value to you as a researcher: BT385/61 Registry of Shipping and Seamen: War of 1939-1945; Index to Logbooks and Crew Agreements Empire Pitt - Empire Star Covering dates 1939 Jan 01 - 1950 Dec 31
Logbooks and crew agreements EMPIRE PITT
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/searchresults.asp?SearchInit=0&txtsearchterm=180135&txtfirstdate=&txtlastdate=&txtrestriction=bt381&hdnsorttype=Reference&image1.x=21&image1.y=14

Northen Boy Do you have his seamans pouch and CRS10?