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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Somerset => Topic started by: collier19 on Thursday 05 April 12 10:51 BST (UK)
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I'm trying to find the marriage record of Thomas Butcher b 1773 d 1846 Bath, and Sarah Unknown (who was born in Bathampton abt 1789). The marriage must have taken place round about 1815. Any help would be much appreciated.
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According to Bristol & Avon FHS transcripts
Thomas BUTCHER bach of Bath Abbey married
Sarah HUGHES of the parish of Bathampton
At Bathampton Parish Church by licence
On 10th February 1815
I did have a quick look for a baptism of Thomas in Bath Abbey transcripts, but not there
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Dear Hystericalwriter, if you were here I would give you an enormous hug!! Thank you so much - you have solved a problem that has been bugging me for years: I just wish I'd joined RootsChat before!
Thanks again
Honor
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Hi Honor,
A great result for you.
Just in case you dont have all of these;
Baptisms, Bath Abbey, Bath, Somerset to THOMAS/SARAH Butcher;
RICHARD, 28 Dec 1816, Burton St
ANN, 29 Dec 1817, Burton St
THOMAS, 04 March 1821, Duke St
JOHN, 12 June 1822, Duke St
WILLIAM, 04 July 1824, Duke St
SAMUEL, 11 Feb 1827, Saw Close, Father Tallow Chandler
All the previous Baptisms before Samuel have the Fathers Occp as Grocer.
Trish :)
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Thank you so much, Trish - no I didn't have any of those so that just makes my day!
The Butchers originally came from Cardington in Shropshire (Richard Butcher senior lived at Chatwall Hall near Cardington, and they farmed all round there - I think Thomas was sent to Somerset to make sure the farmers had somewhere to sell their goods:-)
Thanks again
Honor
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Have you got these:
Bp
Thomas s/o Richard & Anne BUTCHER
5 Oct 1773 Cardington, Salop
IGI C058561
Marriage:
Richard BUTCHER
Ann CROFT
6 Feb 1768 Cardington Salop
IGI M058561
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Yes, I have, thank you. I was just saying to my husband that I have learned more about my 3x gt grandfather today than in all the years I've been doing the tree. I have managed to download his will from the National Archives - he owned 11 Duke Street in Bath which from Google Maps seems to be quite a place - and seems to have left a lot of money to his wife and children. He is stated to be a tea dealer in some places, grocer in others and tallow chandler in others - whatever, he made a pile doing it!!
And it's all thanks to you very kind people on Rootschat!
Kind regards
Honor
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Great result Honor :)
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Trish I love your Twiglets - aren't they gorgeous!
Honor
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It might be worth contacting Bath Guildhall Archives to see if they have copies of the licence of Thomas's marriage.........sometimes gives a bit more info than just the marriage entry.....and anyway its always nice to see copies of the orginal entries. They are very helpful too:
http://www.batharchives.co.uk/family_history.aspx
Anne
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Thank you re the Twiglets. I need to update photo as the are 3/1 now.
And an excellent idea Anne :)
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Hi
The marriage doesn't appear on FreeREG at the moment. There seems to be a bit of a problem with our Bathampton files. The only extra details we have are the witnesses, who were George BUTCHER and Hannah CHARMBURY.
There are also two Hughes baptisms
15 Jun 1788 Sarah F James Elizabeth HUGHES
17 Oct 1790 John M James Elizabeth HUGHES
David
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Thanks, David, this just gets better and better! :D
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:DThanks to everybody I've managed to trace my Hughes family back from Sarah to William Hughes, her grandfather who died 1820. He was the father of Dorcas Hughes b 1773 Camerton, d 1852 Bathampton. She married John Croome Charmbury 1773-1813. Her brother James married Sarah Unknown and was the mother of Sarah who married Thomas Butcher.
Now if possible I would love to find out about William Hughes who died in 1820 and presumably married about 1770 - does this ring a bell with anyone?
Many thanks
Honor
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Marriages in the timeframe you are seeking
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl
That link didn't work, so there is a marriage of William HUGHES to Mary JONES on 9 Oct 1773 at Walcot St Swithins. (which you can find using the FreeReg link)
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Still not sure what's happening with the Bathampton files in FreeREG, and any changes I make won't show to the next periodic update anyway. But if you care to join the Bath Forum Hundred group, you can download spreadsheet versions there - and find more people with family interests in the Bath area.
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/bathforumhundred/
David
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Hi Anne and David I will follow everything you've said - thank you so much for taking the time to answer my queries - need any help with Cambridgeshire? :D
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No family in Cambridgshire!
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James Hughes of Bathampton married Elizabeth Davis at St. James in Bath in 1787. This one does show on FreeREG
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=2047619
But that is actually extracted from the Dwelly's Transcript and doesn't show the full details. A full transcript is also on FreeREG, and has the marriage, but it doesn't show up. That's down to a problem that I have already fixed, but since the last rebuild of the database so it won't show until after the next one.
Again you'll find the full transcript on the Bath Hundred group. It shows he was from Bathampton, the marriage was by licence and the witnesses were Ann BROOKS and Richard STRANGE.
I've no family from Cambridgeshire either, strictly North and West, but thanks anyway.
David
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Thank you, David, I've joined the group as you suggested and already found some more data - this has been a really satisfying week!
Regards
Honor
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Hi
I don't know if it's one and the same but I notice you have Thomas Butcher as having a son Thomas Butcher 1821. My family interest are the Brewers of Bath. I have an Elizabeth Brewer, who also came from quite a wealthy family marrying a Thomas Butcher in 1851, is this your Thomas? He was a Wholesale grocer and they were very well off.
Whilst not a direct ancestor it's always good to make other connections.
As a possible further confirmation, Thomas 1821 died in 1861, his executor was his brother a William Butcher, who I see in the list of births you have been given.
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Yes, Thomas Butcher was my gt gt uncle, the brother of Richard 1816-1882. They were two of the sons of Thomas Butcher born in Cardington, Shropshire, in 1773, d 1846 Bath. Thomas was a younger son of Richard Butcher Esq of Chatwall Hall, Cardington, Shropshire, and he obviously got sent off to make the most of the produce of the various Butcher farms. He married Sarah Hughes, daughter of James b 1776 Camerton and Sarah. I think Thomas senior did do rather well for himself because he bought 11 Duke Street which judging from Google maps was quite a classy place to live!
My descent is from Richard Butcher Thomas' eldest son who inherited a lot of land in Shropshire from his uncle, Richard of Chatwall, and the land stayed in the family until 1896 when my idiot gt grandfather, Richard Thomas Butcher, sold it all off! Just no consideration for later generations :D
I have my tree on ancestry - if you'd like to see it, email me at * and I'll send you an 'invitation'.
Kind regards
Honor
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Yes I have a tree on Ancestry and I have just started adding in some of Thomas's 1821 children with Elizabeth Brewer. You'll see I found a Will for this Thomas who died young and he left about 14,000 so yes the family did rather well. All the Brewers did well for themselves too in Bath and Bristol.
I'll email you and invite you too.Byr for now Clare.