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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Fife => Topic started by: regencydiamond on Wednesday 04 April 12 21:45 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I am new to this forum and have come up against a wall when trying to find information regarding my Great Great Great Grandmother Eliza Jack. She married my 3 x Grandfather in 1859. On the marriage certificate it gives her father as William Jack (deceased) and her mother as Margaret Wishart. Margaret married William Anderson in 1838 and on the 1841 census it lists Eliza Jack as being a daughter of the house (she was erroneouly named Margaret). Eliza passed away in 1922. On various census forms it gives her birthplace as Abbotshall.
I am specifically looking for birth information for Eliza as well as any marriage information for her parents. I have checked Scotlands people extensively and cannot find anything. Any help is gratefully appreicated......Kerrie
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
I know marriages for 1838 are rather sparse on information but do you know whether Margaret's previous marital status was (or would be) shown
I just wondered if it confirmed she was a widow when she married William Anderson
Margaret was only born 1814/15 so was only 20 when she had Eliza and 23 when she married Anderson.
Not impossible for her to have married, had Eliza and been widowed but it's a very short timescale
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This may be her birth but I don't know if Kingsbarns is near Abbotshall
MARGARET WISHART Birth: 15 MAY 1815 Kingsbarns, Fife
Father: JOHN WISHART Mother: ELIZABETH LAING
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Here's the 1838 marriage from the IGI and she married as Wishart - not Jack
WILLIAM ANDERSON Spouse: MARGT. WISHART Marriage: 14 JUN 1838 Abbotshall, Fife
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Hi Carol,
Thank you for your help. I did know who Margaret's parents were but did not have or birthdate so that helps. I am looking at the page of her marriage to William Anderson and it indicates that her name is NOT Jack but Wishart which leads me to believe that maybe she and William Jack were not married. There was a comment by some family members who think he may have been a sailor but It was so long ago, who knows. I tried to find a record of Eliza's birth by searching all of Scotland under Eliza, Elizabeth etc and got nothing that fit. I am not sure where to go from here. If I could find her Eliza's birth certificate, it may indicate if her parents were married. If the child is illegitimate, it was right on the entry.
I do appreciate your help....Kerrie
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Hi Kerrie
Bit of a longshot - have you tried under Wishart just in case?
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Carol,
I think I did but I am going to try again. Thanks for the idea. I will keep you posted.
Kerrie
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Nothing under Wishart either
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That's a blow - nothing on the IGI either under either surname. Sounds as though her biological father may have been Jack but I'm pretty certain she was illegitimate
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Most likely but I would think there should still be a birth certificate. I know she was buried in Burntisland so maybe I will get in touch with the cemetary there and see if there might be any information on her gravemarker.
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spouse: William Anderson
child: Margaret Anderson
name: Margaret Anderson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 05 May 1839
baptism/christening place: ABBOTSHALL,FIFE,SCOTLAND
birth date: 26 Apr 1839
father's name: William Anderson
mother's name: Margaret Wishart
indexing project (batch) number: C11399-8
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 993525
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Hi
Looking at the freeCEN website , the 1841 Census transcription only has 2 Jack's in Abbotshall
Margert(Eliza?) age 5 that you already have , and a William Jack age 8 living with Dicksons
I wonder if there is a connection between them ?
ev
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Thanks jac2 & ev. I had a thought and I am wondering if Eliza may have been adopted. Maybe something happened to her parents. I am going to look into Margaret's parents and siblings and maybe that may solve the mystery.
Jac2 - that Margaret that you gave me the info for is actually the first child of Margaret & William Anderson. Thank you very much.
Kerrie