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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Topic started by: Milltown on Tuesday 03 April 12 16:43 BST (UK)
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Trying to trace a William Macartney who emigrated to Canada from Northern Ireland in early 1900's. Went on to live in Calgary where he married. Do not know wife's name but I do know they did not have any children.
Can anyone help with suggestion where to search?
Thanks. :)
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Hello Milltown,
Welcome to Rootschat
A few more details would help the search. When was William born and where ? Who were the parents ?
Sandra
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William was born in 1886 in what is now Northern Ireland. His parents were Matthew and Ann Macartney. Do not know his mothers maiden name.
He was born in Cromkill near Kells, Co Antrim, Ireland.
Other than this I am at a loss.
Thanks for any help you can offer. :)
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There is a passenger list for William MCCARTNEY, 38, married, occupation laundry supt., returning on the Montcalm 4 April 1926 from Belfast to St. John, New Brunswick.
He was returning home to his wife, Mrs. McCartney, at 454 Rosdale Ave., Winnipeg, Manitoba. Irish contact was his brother Mr. M. McCartney Cromkill Ballymena Antrim.
William had been in Canada between the years 1906 and 1925 in Winnipeg.
Did your William have a brother with the initial M? If this is your William he might have moved to Calgary at a later date. You can browse the Henderson directories for Calgary at this site
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abwcobit/
If this tallies with family information there are two possible marriages in Winnipeg for a William McCartney.
One to Florence Beatrice Baines 12/07/1910 at Winnipeg (Groom was William John)
the other to Louise Jane Odger 10/12/1918 at Winnipeg.
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
William and Florence are in Winnipeg on the 1916 census but have children
Debbie
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Thank you very much for this. I have an old photograph of William Macartney and on the back it refers to his wife as Louise so the 1918 marriage to Louise Odger is a possibility.
Regarding the passenger list William does have a brother M (Matthew) Macartney who lived at Cromkill nr Ballymena so again this is looking good. The only problem is that the surname is spelt differently. While people generally spell it McCartney the correct spelling is Macartney and I would assume that it would have been spelt correctly on the marriage records.
But thank you for your help I do appreciate it.
Gerald. :D
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Deddie
Further question
1. How do you know he was in Canada between 1906 and 1925 in Winnipeg?
2. How did you obtain the address in Winnipeg you mention above?
3. Is it possible for me to view the Montcalm passenger list you mention for 4 April 1926
Thanks
Gerald
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http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html
From this link choose Exploration and Settlement and under that Passenger Lists 1865-1935
This is a ships passenger search and is not name indexed so you have to flip through the pages to find your man but at least you have the ships name and sailing date to make it easier.
As to spelling of names - don't be too concerned about that. So many records that we think now should be accurate in detail weren't back then. The cost of the marriage certificate would be $12.00 Canadian if you want to definitely find out if it your relative. Parents names would be listed - you might even get lucky and find out the maiden name of his mother.
Debbie
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Hi,
In case you have trouble finding the 1926 passenger list image - here it is...
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l2v/
Don't forget to scroll all the way over (the image is quite wide) to see all of the information Debbie found. His name is McCartney here.
I absolutely agree with Debbie - don't be too worried about spelling. :) :).
RK
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To both of you thank you very much for all your help. I had almost given up hope of tracing my Gt Uncle at all.
Do you know if it is possible to view the full marriage certificate before buying or are full details only available on the certificate. Also can the order be paid for online and then downloaded or does it have to be done by post?
Again many thanks for your help. ;D ;D
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As far as I know, you will have to order it by mail. Here is the link for ordering information and an application form.
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/HowToApply.html
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A family tree on ancestry following the Odgers family shows Louisa Jane d/o William Reuben Phillips Odgers and Susan Jane Knuckey was born 07 Nov 1887 Rapid City Manitoba and died 15 Jan 1981 Calgary. Marriage to William McCartney but no information on him.
The link to the website previously given for the Henderson directories is also a paysite for Alberta obituaries. Her cost used to be $5.00 per obituary - don't know if it has increased. She might be able to find the Calgary obituary for Louise which in turn might further your information on William.
Debbie
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Thank you very much for this. It now confirms the correct William Macartney and Wife as I know they lived in Calgary.
Thanks for your help will try and follow this up. :) :)
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He may have actually come in 1905, July 7th, on the ship Bavarian, age 19 headed for Winnipeg...
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0l3b/
Haven't spotted him 1906 or 1911 yet
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thinkI may have found him although age doesn't match (line 23 apt 777 McCartny William Boarder age 25) 1906 MB Winnipeg Dist #10 Subdist. 6 A (Ward six) Page 101 / boarding in Winnipeg
image says he immigrated 1903 so may not be correct man http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census06/
That one is married in 1911 and a driver for a fruit company so that you can eliminate him in future lookups, like Wpg directories...hmmmmm.....although strangely he now says he is only 24 which would match your man, but immigration still says 1903 http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=34965
That's the one married to Florence...FLORENCE BEATRICE BEINES listed as mother of George...
Anyone have him in 1916 as odd he's not showing prior... or could he have been married previously & that is he...??
Louisa Jane in 1911 http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=33023