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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: Valtaya on Monday 02 April 12 10:51 BST (UK)
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I have a right fiddly one..
Joseph Bernard Scarle married Ada Elizabeth Brown in 1905 in Langley Mill (Basford District.
On 1911 census he is living in Heanor with wife and kids - which says he was born 1879 in Leicestershire.
He died 1927 in Heanor aged 48. (as Bernard Scarle)
So far so good yes?? Well where the heck was he before that??!!
There is no sign of any Joseph Bernard Scarle on any other census records and NO birth record for that name or anything like that..
What am I missing???
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Have you tried looking under the name Searle.....I can imagine Scarle easily being mis-transcribed as Searle
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Wow this is a tough one for sure. Don't suppose you have marriage cert with fathers name 8)
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I have to go out now but someone could look at this one perhaps?
1881 3157/ 95/ 19
There is a published tree with this family
heywood :)
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1881 census, reference RG11, 3157, 95, 19
5 Yeoman Street, St Margaret, Leicester
Shahill, Patrick Head M 50 Conc. Porter b Killernan(?), Ireland
Shahill, Bridget Wife F 41 b Ireland
Shahill, Ann Daughter F 18 Warehouse b Whitwick, Leicestershire
Shahill, Bridget Daughter F 15 Warehouse b Whitwick
Shahill, John Son M 13 Scholar b Whitwick
Shahill, Mary J Daughter F 11 Scholar b Leicester
Shahill, Bernard Son M 11 Scholar b Leicester
Same family in 1891:
RG12, 2537, 51, 15
11 Albert Street, Leicester
Skahill, Patrick Head M 71 Coal Porter b Galway
Skahill, Bridget Wife F 47 b Laughney, Ireland
Skahill, Bridget Daughter F 25 Machinist b Whitwick, Leicestershire
Skahill, Mary J Daughter F 24 Shoe Rivetter b Leicester
Skahill, Bernard Son M 25 Machinist b Leicester
Phonetically, especially in an Irish accent, Shahill, Skahill, Scarle all sound close?! ;D
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From what has been discovered and the online Tree this looks like your man....
Births Sep 1878
SKAHILL Bernard - Leicester 7a 221
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Parents married as Patrick Scale and Bridget Ryan Sept.1855 Leicester.
Patrick's death in 1897 as Scarle.
Annette
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Ooooooooooooooh I love you lot!!
The marriage certificate for Bernard (Joseph) and Ann are on the order list for this month but HOPEFULLY that will just confirm what you have done already..
xx
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That's great news isn't it. We knew people called Scahill which was pronounced in a similar fashion - or Sca- hill.
good luck :)
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I have a right fiddly one..
On 1911 census he is living in Heanor with wife and kids -
1911 they are living in Mill Rd Marlpool (which is near Heanor) Derbys -just thought I'd point that out so your records are correct. - I have family living on Mill Rd - been there since before 1900
One child was b Marlpool - the other Langley -
Marlpool is (kind of) just up the hill from Langley
Suz
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That's great news isn't it. We knew people called Scahill which was pronounced in a similar fashion - or Sca- hill.
good luck :)
In Irish pronunciation, isn't the "h" silent (kind of?!).
Many years ago I worked with someone called Mahoney - pronounced Mah-uh-knee.
Or at least it sounded like that to my English ears! ;D