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Title: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: monyroads on Saturday 31 March 12 17:43 BST (UK)
Robert Jones born Llangwstenin 1850
 pauper? and lodger in 1851 census aged 1  not sure if he was orphaned or abandoned
in llangwstenin in 1861 as a servant /carter aged 11
married in 1870 to Mary Evans in llanasa and now a collier and living in whitford in 1871 

place of birth given as

 llangwstenin caenarvenshire in 1891
as Llangoldennen, Caernarvonshire in 1881
asLlanduauo, Caernarfonshire, Wales in 1871

I think llangwstenin is near llandudno on the border between caernarvonshire and denbighshire

has any one any information about Robert Jones (1850-1909?)
he was my great grandfather, his son john was born in Harwardan in 1875 and was also a collier
the family moved to Prescot Lancashire and in 1891 Robert and his older 3 sons are all listed as coal miners
I am trying to find parents or siblings
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 31 March 12 17:45 BST (UK)
Hi monyroads

Welcome to rootschat  :)

What information does his marriage certificate give about his father, who are the witnesses ?

Rosie
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: Morganllan on Sunday 01 April 12 22:37 BST (UK)
Hi monyroads  :)

A warm welcome to Rootschat from me too!

Genuki has some information about Llangwstenin:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Llangwstennin/index.html

Robert could have been born between 1849 and 1850 (as he was 1 on 1851 census, but he could have been 2 later that year). I checked northwalesbmd births and there are a few possibilities:

http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi

If you decide to order a birth certificate, remember to specify Llangwstenin Parish.

Kindest Regards
Morgan



Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: monyroads on Monday 02 April 12 21:03 BST (UK)
thanks :) thats really helpful

Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 03 April 12 08:26 BST (UK)
Hi monyroads

Welcome to rootschat  :)

What information does his marriage certificate give about his father, who are the witnesses ?
Rosie
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: monyroads on Tuesday 03 April 12 19:01 BST (UK)
I have sent away for the marriage certificate but still waiting for it to be sent

I live in Scotland but am planning a visit to North Wales in May

I've been used to accessing records for Scottish relatives via Scotlands people is there an equivalent website for Wales ?

I was planning to visit the Clwyd FHS to look up possible birth/baptism records

thanks for your help
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: AliKing753 on Monday 13 April 15 17:13 BST (UK)
Hi Moneyroads...turns out he is an ancestor of mine too! I am just begining to find out my ancesetry and came across this!

He is my great great grandad apparently on my mothers side.

I have just the information on his dad, a David Jones and unknown mother. Hopefully more to come so I can keep you updated when I find out more!

I know he had 7 children with Mary Evans:

Moses William Jones
David Jones
John Jones
Catherine Ann Jones
Robert H Jones
Mary Jones and
Sarah Jane Jones

Ali :)
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: monyroads on Wednesday 15 April 15 19:37 BST (UK)
Hi Ali
I managed to trace Robert Jones baptism 2nd June 1850 in Llangystennin,Caernarvon,Wales and his mother is Cathrine Roberts of Gwyndy ( she is in the 1841 census for llangystennin aged 10? but wastn't born in that county and was a servant)
the baptism gives David Jones of  Bryngosol as father but it seems he never married cathrine  and i found no trace of her after Roberts birth although David goes on to marry Margaret Parry and emigrate to Australia

I am decended from Roberts son  John Jones (1875-1945) he was my grandfather
keep  in touch
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: AliKing753 on Thursday 16 April 15 09:12 BST (UK)
Hi,

How interesting, thanks for that! I shall add it to my info.

So your grandfather's sister Sarah Jane Jones (1890-1986) was my great grandma on my mums side! Nice to meet a distant relation through this!

Ali
Title: Re: llangwstenin robert jones 1850-1909?
Post by: monyroads on Saturday 18 April 15 12:19 BST (UK)
Hi Ali

I don't have any info on Sarah Jane Jones would you be happy to give me some info on who she married and her children
I have info on siblings  John Jones  Catherine Ann Jones and Robert Henry Jones

did Sarah Jane stay in Prescot area?

I am happy to email info rather than put on to the message board or I have trees on ancestry
monyroads@aol.com