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Title: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: burnswebber on Tuesday 27 March 12 22:35 BST (UK)
My grandfather Henry Lionel Day first marriage 01/02/1901 and  Lionel Henry Day according to his second marriage certificate was 37 on  01/02/1913.  His father was Henry Lionel Day, deceased, and a sawyer on both marriage certificates.  Census return says born Ipswich.  There are a lot of Henry Days on the Ipswich census'.  My grandfather was orphaned aged + - 12.  I would be grateful if anyone could help me to find the right Henry/Lionel and advise me on how to obtain the birth certificate to further my research into my paternal forbears.
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 27 March 12 23:04 BST (UK)
There is only one entry on freebmd that it possibly could be  March qtr 1877

Henry Lionel Day     Ipswich  4a 713

Certs can be ordered online at www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: crisane on Tuesday 27 March 12 23:05 BST (UK)
Using the birthdate c1876 +/- 5 years from 2nd marriage cert this census entry  looks good. He is the only one born Ipswich in that time period.
1881 RG11/1871/58/8
Henry Day 28 wood sawyer born Ipswich
Sarah wife 28 Westleton Suffolk
Henry 4 Ipswich
Sarah 2 Ipswich
Mary Ann Bennett Boarder widow 72 Halston

Using the reg info found by CaroleW you can specify the names of the parents if you wish, when ordering the cert..
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: crisane on Tuesday 27 March 12 23:24 BST (UK)
You have Henry Lionel with his uncle and aunt George and Maria Steggell in 1891?
RG12/1471/10/14 
ancestry has him as Leonel H Day! I have put in a correction.

It looks like his sister Sarah was in the orphanage RG12/1470/118/33
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: burnswebber on Wednesday 28 March 12 07:29 BST (UK)
Yes this is the information I had found, I had wondered about the Leonel H Day too.  Would you buy the birth certificate on this information? Also how would I find which orphanages were in the Ipswich area? Could it be a poor house do you think?
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: Keziah2 on Wednesday 28 March 12 07:43 BST (UK)
Hi

If the details given by crisane prove to be correct then:

Henry DAY, a Sawyer of Fore Hamlet, Ipswich St Clement, died on 15 Aug 1884 & was buried Ipswich Cemetery 19 Aug 1884 age 32. (Source:  Suffolk Burial Index).  This ties in with his abode on the 1881C - 117 Fore Hamlet, Ipswich St Clement.

Sarah DAY appeared to be alive in 1891 (RG12/1469/21/36
living Willoughby Road Railway Mews Coffee Rooms, St Mary Stoke, Ipswich.  Widow age 39 born Westleton.  Manager of a Refreshment Room.  Living with her are daughters Elizabeth 16 (Assist in Refreshment Room) & Margaret 7 (Scholar) both born Ipswich.

Elizabeth is also on the 1881C age 6 with parents Henry & Sarah, siblings Henry 4 & Sarah 2.

Perhaps Henry was with his grandparents in 1891 because Sarah was busy working.

At a quick glance I couldn't find Sarah in 1901 though so she may have remarried, died, etc?

Marriage:  Henry Day Dec Qtr 1873 Ipswich Ref 4a/1429 & on the same page Sarah Hakon.

1861C Westleton - RG9/1179/57/21:
Sarah HACON age 9.  Parents John HACON 47 & Maria 43

Keziah


Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: Keziah2 on Wednesday 28 March 12 07:47 BST (UK)
In 1891 a Sarah Day age 12 was a boarder at the Hope House Orphanage, Foxhall Road, Ipswich St Clement.

K
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: burnswebber on Wednesday 28 March 12 08:09 BST (UK)
I have Henry marrying 03/02/1901 Elizabeth Ann Hodgson in the Peckham area of London. A witness at their marriage was Daisy Ann KEZIA Marsh. I had never heard of this forename before seeing the certificate. Now a Kezia is offering me information. Wow.
Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Wednesday 28 March 12 10:05 BST (UK)
Lovely old name Kezia/h.

I have just missed a talk to the WI on Hope House. 

I am hoping  ;) that another local group will invite the speaker so that I may get to hear all about Hope House in Ipswich.

Pat ...


Title: Re: Birth Registration - HENRY LIONEL DAY
Post by: burnswebber on Wednesday 28 March 12 17:55 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for the above information. I have been on this trail for almost a decade. I have trawled so many census returns since the coming of the internet.   Originally I only had my gran (2nd wife) year of death to go on. People are so generous with their time and help. Angela.