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Title: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 10:59 BST (UK)
If anyone can help with a birth for Thelma, I'd be very grateful. She married in NSW in 1936. She died in 2007 and her age was given as 90. Her second name was given as Irene in the newspaper Death notice.

The lady I am helping at our family history volunteer group has no idea where she was born, and is going to get a marriage transcription. However, I know some of you kind RC-ers have access to information that just may give us her birth and her parents' names.

Fingers crossed!   ;D


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Monday 26 March 12 11:12 BST (UK)
Hi Dee,

Would that 1935 marriage be to Archibald C T Moss, ref #17714, registered Carcoar?

I will try to help, and as I am back at home with my offline NSW resources, fingers crossed I can find some info on them both.

Cheers,  JM

Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 11:16 BST (UK)
Spot on, JM....and many thanks.   :)


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: eregli_gene on Monday 26 March 12 11:21 BST (UK)
If she was born in NSW in 1917,  she should be on the old fiche copy of the birth index which ran to 1918  although the online index only runs to 1911.
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: sparrett on Monday 26 March 12 11:27 BST (UK)
This may be her husband's  birth in NSW.

REG 28471/IN 1905  MOSS  ARCHIBALD C T
Parents
CHARLES & MARY A
TUENA

Sue
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Monday 26 March 12 11:28 BST (UK)
NSW ER 1903 MACQUARIE, polling at Carcoar  (there were many other polling places in that electorate)
NONE for surname Crain;  None for surname Moss.  

There are several with surname MOSS at the Lyndhurst polling place in that electorate

I will have a good look tomorrow.

Perhaps eregli_gene has access to the old fiche copy and can look for her there this evening.

Cheers,  JM
 
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 11:30 BST (UK)
This may be her husband's  birth in NSW.

REG 28471/IN 1905  MOSS  ARCHIBALD C T
Parents
CHARLES & MARY A
TUENA

Sue

Thanks Sue.

The lass I'm helping has all the information on Archibald's background. She's done well  in tracking him back.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Monday 26 March 12 11:30 BST (UK)
Sands 1909 Country Dir for NSW
NONE with surname Crain.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 11:32 BST (UK)
Not many Crain/Craine results at all in records I've been checking, JM......    :-\
Majority of births from 1880 to 1911 are in Adelong.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Monday 26 March 12 11:35 BST (UK)
Sands 1917 Country Dir for NSW
S CRAIN, auctioneer, Adelong

 ;D  ;D  ;D   now to get them to Tuena  ::) and what does the S stand for in his name ?

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Monday 26 March 12 11:49 BST (UK)
Sands 1925 Dir for NSW  (country and Sydney)

Samuel CRAIN, auctioneer, Adelong  .... so could be a rellie for Thelma ....
Robert CRAIN, grazier, Adelong
Crain & Melrose, butchers, Adelong
William Crain, farmer, Adelong

Misses CRAIN, 14 Sloane St, Summer Hill
Andres I Crain, 15 Johnston St, Balmain
George F Grain, grazier, Mount Adrah
Irvine Crain, grazier, Mount Adrah
J H Crain, chemist, 32 St Pauls St, Randwick
W J Crain, 184-186 Abercrombie St, Redfern


Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 11:57 BST (UK)
If we can find a connection for Thelma to the Crain families of Adelong, Mt Adrah, Gundegai etc, there's a website I've found that could be very helpful to further research.

http://www.familysteps.id.au/Crain/Crain%20Family.htm


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Monday 26 March 12 12:04 BST (UK)
If she was born in NSW in 1917,  she should be on the old fiche copy of the birth index which ran to 1918  although the online index only runs to 1911.

Some of us have other resources  ;D

Birth:

Thalma I CRAIN b. 1917 GUNDAGAI #23127
Parents: Bruce S & Ada M

Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 12:11 BST (UK)
Brilliant, thanks Merlin!   :D   :D

You'll have made the lass I'm helping very happy. With that information she'll now be able to make more progress by herself.

(Our volunteer group doesn't do all the work for people who come in to the local library Family History sessions.....we just try to point them in the right direction and give them a little help along the way.   :D    )


Dee.....who shall now switch off for the night!    ;D
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Monday 26 March 12 12:13 BST (UK)
Well found Merlin.

Bruce S & Ada M CRAIN.  ;D  

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Monday 26 March 12 12:30 BST (UK)
Email just sent off, with a link to this thread. You never know, Rootschat may get a new member!   :)


Dee    :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: rodken on Tuesday 27 March 12 09:03 BST (UK)
Hi everyone yes I have joined and thank so much for your help will take the info you have and see what I can come up with regards to everyone and thanks for your time and effort
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Tuesday 27 March 12 09:35 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat, Rodken.    :)

Have fun sorting through the information.
There may be a little more posted later.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Tuesday 27 March 12 11:21 BST (UK)
Welcome from me too

I have looked at my NSW Electoral rolls and other offline resources.  I will post re CRAIN and MORTON circa 1903 and 1913 tomorrow morning ....

PS  I have not ever knowlingly met face to face ANY RChatter so you are one up on me and I am so pleased that you have met Dee for (in my humble opinion) Dee will guide and give good counsel with a smile and good humour and with respect for the protocols rules guidelines and practices of this fantastichobby of family history.

May you enjoy the journey as much as the delight when you reach each point along the way.

Cheers JM PPS  Dee is not allowed to blush as I wont permit it well as I am in NSW and it is evening thats 2 reasons why I cant see SA from here.

 
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Tuesday 27 March 12 11:24 BST (UK)
 :-[    :-[   :-[

 ;D   ;D   ;D


Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Wednesday 28 March 12 02:59 BST (UK)
Hi there,

And so, leading on from Merlin’s find, most likely you have checked the NSW BDM online indexes and noticed Bruce and Ada’s marriage, and possibly noticed the birth registration for a likely older brother for Thelma Irene.

As promised, here’s some NSW Electoral Roll info from my off-line resources :

NSW ER 1913 COOTAMUNDRA, polling at Gundagai
CRANE, Ada May, Spring Flat, dd
CRANE, Bruce Stanley, Spring Flat, groom

MORTON, Annie, Gundagai, dd
MORTON, Arthur Ernest, Gundagai, painter
MORTON, George Frederick, Spring Flat, butcher
MORTON, John Alfred, Gundagai, labourer
MORTON, Julia, Spring Flat, dd
MORTON, Mary, Gundagai, dd


NSW ER 1903 HUME, polling at Gundagai
MORETON
Anne, Hanley st, dd
Arthur Ernest, Spring Flat, painter
George Frederick, Spring Flat, labourer
John Alfred, Spring Flat, miner
Julia, Spring Flat, dd

And for MORTON
William Albert, Gundagai, labourer.


Fingers crossed 

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Wednesday 28 March 12 03:44 BST (UK)
Lots of info for the CRAIN/CRAINE/CRANE & MORTON families on the Monaro Pioneers website:

http://www.monaropioneers.com/
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: rodken on Wednesday 28 March 12 08:21 BST (UK)
Just a quick update have found lots of info including my husbands great great grandparents on both his parents sides and grand parents side once found thelmas maiden name I actually found a family tree of hers once again thank you everyone for your help it is very contagious and was up till 1am this morning searching
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Wednesday 28 March 12 08:59 BST (UK)
I did warn you it could be addictive, Rodken!   ;D   ;D

We've been very happy to help you.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: majm on Wednesday 28 March 12 11:06 BST (UK)
Yes but what a fantastic addiction ... and with no cure in sight nor any medical research being undertaken to look for one.  And RChat to help feed the addiction and to help others with similar addictions ... 

Cheers JM
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: eregli_gene on Saturday 31 March 12 06:56 BST (UK)
Not sure what "other resources" Merlin was using,  I went to the library today and I can confirm that she appears in the fiche copy of the "Pioneers Index",  which runs to 1918,

as

Thalma (sic) I Crain,  1917,  parents Bruce S and Ada M, registered at Gundagai,  reg 1917/23127

Not sure how many libraries still have these fiches,  very useful for looking for births between 1911 and 1918.
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: rodken on Sunday 01 April 12 05:27 BST (UK)
thank you any info found is a bonus, still learning and its great that wonderful people who know what they are doing can pass on info and where to look etc once again a big thank you im definately hooked traced husbands family history
right back to 1800 now it takes me to ireland very interesting.
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: kd1968 on Thursday 26 July 12 10:25 BST (UK)
Hello, Thelma was my grandfathers sister. My grandfathers name is Cecil. My dad remembers Aunty Thelmas husband Archibald and apparently Archibald was famous for making a cup of tea but by the time they got the cup of tea it would be cold. Just a little bit of info that my dad Stephen Crain told me tonight when I asked him about Aunty Thelma. Would love to know if anybody has information about Ada ( Morton), my great grandmother. Thanks in advance, Kerry.
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Thursday 26 July 12 10:33 BST (UK)
Hello Kerry.
Welcome to Rootschat.   :)

Hopefully Rodken will get an email to tell her that''s there a new post on this thread. However, what you need to do is post twice more on this thread and then you will be able to use the personal message system on here. We're not allowed to post email addresses because of spammers, so it would be good if you could use the Modify button and remove your email address. Otherwise a Moderator will automatically do so.

I've already noted the address as I may be able to get in touch with her through our group at the library where I helped her with her research.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: kd1968 on Thursday 26 July 12 10:47 BST (UK)
Thank you Dee, much appreciated   :)  Have deleted my email.
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: kd1968 on Thursday 26 July 12 10:50 BST (UK)
Does anybody have any photos of Ada Morton. I am at a loss with finding anything about her. My grandfather told me she had left the family home and had more children with another man? I am wondering if anybody knows anything about this as well?? Thanking you for all your time
kerry.
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Thursday 26 July 12 10:55 BST (UK)
Thank you Dee, much appreciated   :)  Have deleted my email.

Well done, Kerry!   :D

I just hope we still have how to contact rodken in our group records.   :-\

Re Ada Morton, you just never know who will google and find this thread.


Dee   :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: rodken on Friday 27 July 12 02:15 BST (UK)
Hey everyone, have been checking here not so regularly lately as busy with our hotels with end of year, thank you for support have only just received email saying a thread on here haven't really had a chance to sit down and do or read every thing will do so this afternoon on my break just wanted to let everyone know have seen this and will respond when get chance thanks again
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Friday 27 July 12 02:18 BST (UK)
Good morning, Rodken,

Good to see you.

 I'll send you a PM with Kerry's email address.


Dee    :)
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: rodken on Sunday 29 July 12 03:13 BST (UK)
hey Dee thanks if dont have email adress will get mum to catch you at library thanks rodken
Title: Re: Thelma I CRAIN Birth
Post by: deeiluka on Sunday 29 July 12 03:18 BST (UK)
I should be there tomorrow afternoon, Rodken.   :)


Dee   :)