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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: DebNZ on Friday 23 March 12 00:25 GMT (UK)
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Johann Buchholz came to NZ in 1872 with his wife Anna and two children. They came to Canterbury on board the Palmerston. Anna died in 1882 (can't find a death for her, can anyone?) and Johann remarried. The question is...to whom?
Some family members believe his 2nd wife was Anna Dovolaska, born in 1868 in Hungary BUT I can find NO family of this name in NZ...or anywhere else! There is a family named Duvalorezky who came to NZ in 1874 and one of their daughters was named Anna - I'm wondering if this could actually be the family but, once again, no family in NZ to follow up on.
To summarise: looking for the death of the first Anna Buchholz (also known as Buchols and Bucholz) and looking for the name of wife number two (also called Anna but surname uncertain) and also their marriage date. Their first child was born in 1890.
Cheers
Debnz
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There is a John Bucholz on the naturalisation register, aged 69 years, from Poland, a Farmer and living in Gore, naturalised 8//9/1902.
Following through on that there is an Annie in the Gore Cemetery in the same plot as John:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kyy/
Cemetery Record Details
Surname Bucholz
Forenames Annie
Birth unknown
Death unknown
Age 31
Cemetery Gore
Location Plot 14, Block 47
Area Catholic
Memorial
BUCHOLZ
Interment ID 10016 (6296)
So perhaps they have further information about the year of death?
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Have you looked on the deaths microfiche instead of BDMH online? The likelihood is that there has been a typographical error and due to the simplicity of the website search criteria, wouldn't be spotted otherwise.
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Following through on that there is an Annie in the Gore Cemetery in the same plot as John:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0kyy/
Cemetery Record Details
Surname Bucholz
Forenames Annie
Birth unknown
Death unknown
Age 31
Cemetery Gore
Location Plot 14, Block 47
Area Catholic
Memorial
BUCHOLZ
Interment ID 10016 (6296)
So perhaps they have further information about the year of death?
Hello...
Burial Locator CD has an Annie BUCHOLS buried in 1899 at Gore Cemetery
For further information concerning the Death Registration contact:
Hokonui Heritage Centre
http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3043
Possibly relates to
BDM NZ Deaths - 1899/1670 - BUCHOLS, Annie - 31Y
The CD also says that there are a few BUCHOLS/BUCHOLZ headstone inscriptions listed on the Gore Cemetery fiche T01.38 (although the cemetery website seems to have most of them)
Regards
Beg
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Hi again...
Any clues to the second wife in his probate (assuming this is the right man)
BUCHOLZ John 1926
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=23095153
Regards
Beg
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Hi Deb,
There is a tree on Rootsweb recording this second marrige of Johan's on 7 April 1883 in Gore to:
Anna Dowaloska b. 1868 Kaschau, Hungrary d. 22 February 1899 in Gore. Anna was possibly 15 when she married. As with all Rootsweb trees you can contact the person who posted it.
Regards,
Craig.
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Hi again...
Just thinking out loud :-)
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BDM NZ has an 1882 death for Anne BOUCHLES
1882/5537 - BOUCHLES, Anne - 36Y
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The electoral roll index for the previous year (1881) lists a John BOUCHLES, living in East Gore.
New Zealand Electoral Rolls Index 1881
http://www.findmypast.com.au/index/dwilson_1881nz
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CONS:
The above age at death is wrong by two years, assuming the age for Anna (28 years) listed on the Palmerston passenger list is correct.
The surname is wrong.
PROS:
John (Johann) and Anne (Anna) BOUCHLES (BUCHOLZ)......hmmmm
Gore gets a mention.
There is an 1882 death.
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I'm visiting the library over the weekend so, as TwiggyTree suggested, will look on the 1882 Deaths microfiche for Anne BUCHOLZ and variants.
Regards
Beg
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Great stuff Beg!
I like the 1882 death....although it is "out" by a couple of years it still fits with the family dynamic.
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Hi again...
I've checked the 1881 to 1883 Deaths fiches and there were no obvious listing for Anna BUCHOLZ or variants **that I could see**
The closest was the Anne BOUCHLES death I mentioned earlier.
Folio no. 1882/1819 - BOUCHLES, Anne
1882 = year of registration
1819 = Oct-Dec quarter in the Gore registration district.
There were only two deaths registered in Gore in the Oct-Dec quarter of 1882.
Regards
Beg
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There is a family named Duvalorezky who came to NZ in 1874 and one of their daughters was named Anna - I'm wondering if this could actually be the family but, once again, no family in NZ to follow up on.
Hi again...
Just returning to Gore...
According to LDS the DUVALOREZKY family you mentioned (arrival 1874 aboard the Sussex) were Johann (38y) and Catharina (28y) and their four daughters Maria (7y), Anna (5y), Catharina (3y) and Leonore (2y).
The Gore Cemetery (http://www.goredc.govt.nz/cemeteries) website lists a John and Catherine DOVALOSKY buried in the same plot. The website says no headstone and no date of death but the Burial Locator CD says John d.1899 and Catherine d.1920 and headstone inscription on the Gore Cemetery fiche T01.38
I can look at the fiche later this week unless someone else offers.
The Burial Locator CD also has a separate entry for a Johan DOVOLOSKY d.1899 in Gore. Further information from the same Hokonui Heritage Centre (http://www.nzmuseums.co.nz/account/3043) that I mentioned in a previous post.
The age at death given for John DOVALOSKY and Johan DOVOLOSKY is the same (77 years) but they both disagree considerably with the age given for Johann DUVALOREZKY on the Sussex passenger list. If it's the same man he shaved fourteen years of his actual age when he emigrated.
BDM NZ - 1899/3374 - DOVOLOSKY, Johan - 77Y
A possible probate...
DOVALOSKY John - Gore - Farmer 1901
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22049374
Can't find a 1920 death for Catherine DOVOLOSKY on BDM NZ. Am assuming the spelling is slightly different. Will check the fiche.
DUVALOREZKY family - 1874 Passenger List for the Sussex
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11667-10375-10?cc=1609792
Regards
Beg
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looking for the name of wife number two (also called Anna but surname uncertain) and also their marriage date.
Hi again...
Bit of a linguistic stretch but here's a maybe (or a maybe not)
Not sure how to find out ages/locations/etc without purchasing the certificate. Maybe someone else can advise
BDM NZ Marriages - 1883/3400 Annie DEVOLOSKY to John BOWHILLS
Got your PM. Thanks :-)
Regards
Beg
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I thinkn you are correct Beg - there are now about 7 different ways I have found this name spelled. This death fits beautifully with the next marriage!
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Not sure how to find out ages/locations/etc without purchasing the certificate. Maybe someone else can advise
BDM NZ Marriages - 1883/3400 Annie DEVOLOSKY to John BOWHILLS
Good find Beg. ;)
Incidentally the NZSG marriages resource has it indexed ...
D E B L O F S K I E - Anna ;D
BOWHILLS - John
1883 [ Folio # 3612 ]
Requesting a look-up of the ITM might help ?
~ Lu
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Marriage date was 7 April 1883 :
[Actually need to call at Archives this week, so will put the ITM look-up on my list, Deb. ]
~ Lu
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Can't find a 1920 death for Catherine DOVOLOSKY on BDM NZ. Am assuming the spelling is slightly different.
1920/4876 - DOVALSKY, Katherine - 75Y
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I think that's her Beg.
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Intention to Marry Notice :
Archives NZ Ref: BDM 20 28/28 - District of Gore -- 1883
John BOWHILLS - Widower - Farmer - aged 42 residing at Waikaka (length of residence - 8 years), intends to marry ...
Annie DOVOLOSKY - Spinster - aged 16 years, residing at Waikaka (length of residence - 8 years)
... at Maurice O'ROURKE's residence, Gordon.
Person giving consent in the case of a minor :
John DOVOLOSKY - father.
Date of Notice: 6 April 1883
Date of Certificate : 6 April 1883
Rev. Nicholas FITZGERALD
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Note: Above notice was very clearly written ... with surname
spelt as "D O V O L O S K Y" : ;)
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[Hi Deb - got notification of your messages but don't have access to PM here, so unable to read or reply to these. Cheers ~ Lu ]
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This is great! Many many thanks.
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THE BUCHOLZ FAMILY
Generation One
1. Johann Bucholz, b. 1839 in Poland, d. 4 Aug 1926 in Seacliff Mental Hospital. The family were Roman Catholic.
Ship the Palmerston bought the family from Germany to NZ
Departed Hamburg Germany 28 July 1872
Arrived Port Chalmers New Zealand 6 December 1872
Johann was granted citizenship 30 July 1902
Otago Daily Times , Issue 8960, 12 November 1890, Page 4
Cattle Wandering Daniel Wadsworth was charged, on the information of John Buobolz, with allowing a bull to wander on the private property of the informant, at Mount C.argill, on November 3. Mr W. A. Stout appeared on behalf of the Informant. John Bucholz gave evidence that about 6.30 on the morning of Monday, Sovember 3, he Baw the bull grazing on his property. The latter was fenced all round with a three-barred fence. He also saw the animal on the. main Blueskin road, no one being in charge of it. The bull was a dangerous one, and people were afraid to pass it. Last month he saw it regularly on the road grazing, It was never tethered. Alexander Reid, residing at Mount Carglll, said that on Monday morning of last week, he saw the bull on Mr Bucholz's land. It was grazing, but was not tethered.; Witness saw it again on the evening of that day grazing on the roadside. He saw the bull rush at two women, who were afraid to pass It. Mrs Wadsworth told witness that it was their bull, about a month ago. Defendant said he had no cattle at all, and did not possess a bull. He could have brought several witnesses to prove this, but thought it unnecessary and in view of these circumstances he asked the bench to postpone the further hearing of the case until such time as he could procure these witnesses. The bench declined to accede to this request, and fined defendant 10a and costs.
Extract from "Mataura Ensign 20 Nov 1937" a talk about the old days. (this refers to Johan Bucholz)
One of the Germantown settlers who married a woman too young for his age and never hit the jackpot of married happiness and became so mental that his wife told him to drown himself out of the way. The unfortuate man tried to oblige his wife but chose to sit on the gravel beach of the Mataura river near where Townsends crusher is now for most of the day.
Mr D Whytock who lived on the opposite side of the river notified Sergeant Fleming of the Gore police. He and the official court bailiff drover over the combined railway and road bridge to East Gore and up to where the man was sitting with his pockets filled with stones. The Sergeant asked him what he was doing there and the unfortunate man replied his wife had told him to go and drown himself so he was sitting there waiting for the tide to come in and carry him away. The Sergeant who was a son of Old Ireland replied in an amusing way "Well me fine boy ye will wait a long time there for the tide to come - we will take ye to a place where the tide will come in much faster" So they took him to a Dr Named Copeland who certified him as insane and sent him to the Seacliff Mental Hospital where he spent the rest of his life until the final tide came in and took him away from living death.
(1) Married in Leipson Dershaw Germany, Anna Yabalonski, b. 1844 in Leipson Dershaw Germany, d. 1882 in Waikaka Southland.
(2) Married 1884 in Gore, Anne Duvoloski, b. 1868 in Kalshaw Hungary (daughter of John Duvoloski and Katherine), d. 22 Feb 1899.
Children by Anna Yabalonski:
i. Joseph Bucholz, b. 1868 in Poland, d. 1952. Married 1911, Nellie Woolliams, b. 1887, d. 1957.
2. ii. Amelia Helen Bucholz b. 1870.
3. iii. Francis (Frank) Bucholz.
4. iv. Mary Bucholz.
5. v. Barbara (Martha) Bucholz.
Children by Anne Duvoloski:
6. vi. Annie Bucholz b. 1885.
7. vii. Elizabeth Bucholz.
viii. Isaac Bucholz, b. 12 Oct 1888, d. 25 Oct 1888.
ix. Margaret Bucholz, b. 1891 in Gore. Married 27 Nov 1912 in Wyndham, William Little, b. 1882 in Palmerston Otago.
x. Adam Bucholz, b. 1897.
xi. Susannah Bucholz, b. 1892 in Gore. Married 19 Apr 1913 in Registrar Office Palmerston North, John Bannan, b. 1890 in Isle of Mann England.
xii. John Bucholz.
xiii. James Bucholz, b. 1895 in Gore, d. 1962. Married 24 Mar 1920 in Registrars office Dunedin, Annie Elizabeth Griffin, b. 22 Mar 1900, d. 1989.
Generation Two
2. Amelia Helen Bucholz, b. 1870 in Poland. Married 1886, Charles Ramsay.
Children:
i. Robert James Ramsay, b. 1887.
ii. Charles William Ramsay, b. 1891.
iii. Helen Gladys Ramsay, b. 1899.
3. Francis (Frank) Bucholz, d. 1950. Married 1907, Mary Alice Cassin.
Children:
i. Stillborn child, b. 1916, d. 1916.
4. Mary Bucholz. Married 1893, Chow Gee.
Children:
i. Charles Gee, b. 1893.
5. Barbara (Martha) Bucholz. Martha went to live with her aunt Nellie Bellesky on the death of her mother. Married 1903, John Wyatt.
Children:
i. Martha Nellie Wyatt, b. 1908.
ii. Henry Wyatt, b. 1907.
6. Annie Bucholz, b. 1885 in Clifton Invercargill, d. 25 Aug 1933 in Christchurch. Married 30 Sep 1902 in Invercargill, James Phillipson, b. 1870 in Barrow in Furness Lancashire UK,, (son of James Phillipson and Mary Ann Fisher), d. 20 Oct 1945 in Burwood Christchurch buried Sydenham cemetery.
See Phillipson family for continuance
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Hello my friends! And thanks for this information. I'm here, because im trying to research about my great grandfather(d. 1995). He told us, that he was from New Zealand, and we know he changed his name at the middle 1920's or 30's. But we know, that his real name was Adam Bucholz. Just like one of the Johann Buchholz sons. And his birth date(march 10) matches too. I would be very happy if you could help me a little with this. Many thanks!!!!
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It might be better for you to start a new post as this one is completed.
Cheers
DebNZ
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Well! Thanks! Can i use the information about Bucholz family in this post?
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Of course!
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Hi DebNZ and Reidrbrown,
There is no need to start a new topic if you are both discussing the same family.
If Reidrbrown could reply once more to this topic (just a smiley will do) you can contact each other by Personal Message to exchange more information.
Spades
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Alrighty Spades.
Just thought others could contribute better if a new topid was posted for Adam.
Cheers
Deb
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How about if i move this topic across to the main New Zealand Board where it will attract more views?
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Yes please!
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Thank you very much! I know its difficult to obtain information about Adam, but i think, if we can contact his nieces or nephews , or something like that, could be fantastic, and a whole new world of opportunities. Actually we have few data, but i have a hunch with this...
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I know one of his nephews (I have "done") his family tree. But he didn't know anything about this family - this is why I began looking in the first place.
There is a WW1 personnel file for Adam but basically it just says - we can't find him!! Maybe this is when/why he changed his name? Maybe this is when he went to America? About 1915-1916?
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Thank you very much, Deb! We have testimonials of him. He remembered the end of the WWI(1918) Then, possibly he left the military forces(defaulter).
Here, in Latin américa, he left a huge family.
Can you please provide me the link of the file?
And many thanks again!
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Congratulations to both of you for making a connection ;D ;D 8)
Spades
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Adam's file:
https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21889473&digital=yes
If you would like access to the family tree on Ancestry, just private message me your email address. I can also put you in touch with the family of Adam's sister Margaret.
DebNZ
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hi Adam sister Annie Agnes Bucholz/s is my Grt grandmother. my name is Dane phillipson on facebook if you would like to chat to me. what did Adam change his name to. im doing genealogy on my families.just done my dna you wouldn't believe how many blood lines you have. still live in new zealand.
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Nice to meet you Dane! Of course. I'm Reinaldo D Rojas Brown in Facebook! I think that will be fantastic! Let me find you! Please check your facebook filtered messages(message request) or "other".
Thank you very much!
Reinaldo
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Hi Deb! Thank you very much. I have total acces and permission from my cousin, to use his ancestry account! So, absolutely YES!!! I'll send you my e-mail! Many thanks, i'm really happy!
Greetings
-Reinaldo
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Hi, Johann married Anna Dovoloski (his second marriage). Anna is the sister of my gt grandmother Leonore who married Maximillian Hoffman.
Anna died in February 1899 and both she and Johann are buried in Gore, N.Z.
Adam Bulchoz changed his name to William Brown and went to America in 1912 or the other way around. The information I have is that he was brought up by his godfather.
Meree
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Yes, I believe that is all correct Meree.
DebNZ
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mereej, you are so right!!! Im impressed! Adam changed her name to Alexander William Brown. But, please, can you share how you found this info, About the year he left NZ, And his godfather?
As his great-grandson, i'm actually gathering all the information and data i can.
Thank you very much!
Reinaldo
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Hi Reinaldo, I got the info from Javier Brown who said you are his cousins son. I had a DNA match with Javier and also have one with Dane Phillipson. The matches are thru the Dovoloski family.
On Ancestry.com I found Adam Bucholz on the Military Defaulters list for 1919-1921 so perhaps he left NZ under a false name or when he left it wasn't registered.
Meree
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Hello Dear,
My grandfather name's was Adam Buchholz and came from NZ ...
He had a family of 15 with my grandmother in Venezuela.
I would like to find out more about it.
Thank you
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Snippets from 'Papers Past':
1871 mention of A. Bucholz…..
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD18710511.2.14?query=a.%20bucholz&phrase=2&snippet=true&type=ARTICLE
And 1907….
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZTIM19071109.2.35?query=a.%20bucholz&phrase=2&snippet=true&type=ARTICLE
Minniehaha.