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Title: Charles COX & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: LzzieG on Tuesday 20 March 12 19:25 GMT (UK)
Charles Cox (born c1830 Somerset,England) married Mary Tottle (born c 1831 Somerset England) in 1852 in Somerset, England. They arrived in Moreton Bay in February 1858 on the ship Irene along with their daughter Emily (born 1857 Somerset, England).The Immigrant Board Examination record dated a few days after their arrival stated Charles' parents were named Charles and Ann and that he had a cousin living in New South Wales but no further details of that cousin were given.

Charles and Emily settled in the Freestone/Warwick area and had further children (Thomas born 1859, Ann born 1861 and George born 1865). Charles Cox died in May 1866 when he fell off his horse in Warwick. Charles and Mary are the GG grandparents of a friend of mine who I'm helping research the Cox family. There is a family story that Charles is related to William Cox the land surveyor who built the first road over the Blue Mountains.

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who may know if Charles and William Cox are related or may have further information regarding Charles & Emily's life in the Warwick area and any information regarding Charles' parents. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary Tottle - Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: SherlockBones on Tuesday 20 March 12 22:26 GMT (UK)
I am confused! Is it Charles and Mary or Charles and Emily?

Charles Cox and Mary Tottle appear to have had 4 children in Queensland: -

Tom b 07/02/1859 ref B903
Ann b 10/04/1861 ref C890
Albert b 31/05/1863 ref 1222
George b 02/07/1865 ref 1875

The 'B' in the reference number for Tom indicates he was born in Brisbane and the rest born in Country Queensland. Most likely Warwick as you have indicated.

Queensland was still officially New South Wales in 1858, not gaining it's independance until Dec 1859, so it may be that Charles and Mary were meeting up with their cousin in the Warwick area of "New South Wales"
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary Tottle - Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: SherlockBones on Tuesday 20 March 12 22:36 GMT (UK)
Charles Cox died 04/05/1866 ref 1290 No father noted but mother recorded as Ann Cox.

Have you got this report from Trove?

The Brisbane Courier Saturday 5 May 1866
(FROH OUR TELEGRAPHIC CORRESPONDENTS - WARWICK)
May 4.
A man named Cox, a farmer residing at Freestone, was thrown from his horse in town today and killed on the spot, his brains being knocked out. He has left a wife and family.
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary Tottle - Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: SherlockBones on Tuesday 20 March 12 22:42 GMT (UK)
Albert died 22/02/1930 ref C1111
George died 13/11/1937 ref C5068

Parents noted as Charles Cox and Mary Tottle

Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary Tottle - Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 20 March 12 22:52 GMT (UK)
Deaths-



IN 1930 REG /C1111   Albert   Cox.   Charles   Mary Tottle

IN 1937REG/C5068   George   Cox.   Charles   Mary Tottle

IN 1933REG/C3727   Ann   Wright.   Charles Cox   Mary Tottle

IN 1924REG/C4477   Tom   Cox.   Charlex Cox   Mary Tottel

The Marriage of ANN COX---

1879/C237   Wright   Robert to   Cox   Ann

They had a number of children in rural QLD

MONUMENTAL INSCRIPTIONS-
COX, Albert, 1863 - 1930, , with Sarah A. COX., MI, Warwick

COX, George, d. 13.11.1937, 72 yrs , father. with wife Mina R. COX., MI, Warwick

COX, Charles , d. 04.05.1866, 37 yrs , d. from a fall from his horse. with wife Mary & son Tom COX., MI, Warwick

COX, Tom , d. 26.10.1924, 65 yrs , s/o the above & my husb. & our fa., MI, Warwick


Sue
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 20 March 12 22:59 GMT (UK)
This is the QLD registration of CHARLES' death


1866/C1290 Charles Cox.  Father not known  Mother  Ann Cox,,,, ** born England aged 37 years.

 
His father is not known to the informant here, but you have a shipping entry giving it as CHARLES.

Sue
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: ennael on Tuesday 20 March 12 23:03 GMT (UK)
This may be Toms' corresponding birth registration from NSW BDM:

5796/1859 
COX  Tom 
Father Charles
Mother Mary
Registered at   Brisbane Moreton  Bay.

Leanne   
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 20 March 12 23:04 GMT (UK)
Wonder if sisters married brothers here ;D

Marriage-

IN 1874 REG /C912   Wright   William   Cox   Emily

Death

IN 1877 REG C2460   Emily   Wright   Charles Cox   Mary Jottle

Monumental Inscription-

WRIGHT, Emily , d. 26.06.1877, 20 yrs , w/o William WRIGHT., MI, Warwick

Sue
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: sparrett on Tuesday 20 March 12 23:11 GMT (UK)
Two births to EMILY and WILLIAM-

IN 1875 REG /C4722   Eliza   Wright Father William   Mother   Emily Cox

IN 1877REG /C1034   Annie   Wright Father William Mother Emily Cox


Death of the child ANNIE

In 1877 REG C2507   Annie   Wright Father William Wright Mother Emily Cox

Monumental Inscription-

WRIGHT, Annie , no details, 9 mths , d/o the above., MI, Warwick

Sue
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: LzzieG on Wednesday 21 March 12 08:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all the information.  Sorry for the confusion but it is Charles Cox and Mary Tottle (not Emily).   My friend Anne is the great grandaughter of Charles and Mary's son Thomas. 

I do have the birth, marriage and death dates for Charles and Mary's children. We do have the newspaper report from Trove on Charles' death in 1866. The inquest report into his death is still in existence and Anne has applied for a copy of that from the Qld State Archives.  It will be interesting to see just how much information surrounding Charles' death it contains.

We didn't have the monumental inscriptions though so thanks for that. Are there records for Warwick cemetery available to view online?

Lizzie
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 21 March 12 08:57 GMT (UK)
I do have the birth, marriage and death dates for Charles and Mary's children.

And now you have ALBERT's as well. ;)

 Are there records for Warwick cemetery available to view online?

I don't know.  Try a google  ;D

Sue
Title: Re: Charles Cox & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: majm on Saturday 14 February 15 04:23 GMT (UK)

........The inquest report into his death is still in existence and Anne has applied for a copy of that from the Qld State Archives.  It will be interesting to see just how much information surrounding Charles' death it contains.

We didn't have the monumental inscriptions though so thanks for that. Are there records for Warwick cemetery available to view online?


Perhaps this thread needs to be updated, re the inquest, and then merged with the following thread?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=712875.0

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Charles COX & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: judb on Saturday 14 February 15 06:53 GMT (UK)
Did you want earlier info re Charles and Emily? These records (which you may already have) seem to fit.

FreeReg has this marriage:

St Michael's church, Burrowbridge, Somerset
12 Apr 1852
Charles COX, Bachelor, Labourer, Abode: Burrowbridge
Mary TOTTLE, Spinster, no occupation given,  Abode: Burrowbridge
Bride's father: Emmanuel TOTTLE, Mason
Witness One: William TOTTLE
Witness Two: Mary Jane TOTTLE
Notes:    He illegitimate

The Note explains why there is no father given on other certificates.  No ages are shown for either.

Possibly Mary's baptism (FreeReg)
Church of St Gregory,   Stoke St Gregory, Somerset
Baptised: 02 Oct 1831
Forename   Mary
Father's Forename   Emanuel
Mother's Forename   Priscilla
Father's Surname   TOTTLE
Abode:   Stoke St Gregory
Father's Occupation   Mason

Baptism for Charles (FreeReg)
Holy Trinity Church, Long Sutton, Somerset
Baptised: 18 Jul 1830
Forename   Charles
Mother:   Ann COX
Father's (sic) Occupation   Single woman

Ann COX (spinster) married William ASHTON (bachelor, carpenter), 30 May 1844 at Burrowbridge

Charles in 1851: at Riverside, Stoke St Gregory.
William Ashton   59, b Broadway, Somerset, carpenter
Ann Ashton   48, wife, b Long Sutton
Charles Cox   22, son-in-law, ag lab, b Long Sutton
(My note - Charles is listed as unmarried so son-in-law would mean that he is William's stepson)

Mary in 1841 - at Hammer?? Wall??, Stoke St Gregory. Looks as though her mother has remarried.
James Palmer   25, waterman
Priscillia Palmer   25
Mary Tottle   9
Elizabeth Tottle   6
William Palmer 2

In 1851 Mary TOTTLE is a lodger, with Mary Jenkins, 72,  and still in Stoke St Gregory now with the address "Riverside, Burrowbridge, Stoke St Gregory".  Occupation:  'pipe maker' - there are others with the same occupation in this area.

The street/road called "Riverside" is easily seen on Googlemap.

Judith
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Title: Re: Charles COX & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: LzzieG on Saturday 14 February 15 22:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the message Judith. I didn't have some of that info so thank you.
Title: Re: Charles COX & Mary TOTTLE- Freestone/Warwick QLD
Post by: judb on Saturday 14 February 15 23:05 GMT (UK)
Here's a bit more -

Marriage (FreeReg)

Church of St Gregory, Stoke St Gregory, 14 June 1830
Emanuel TOTTLE
Priscilla LEAVER
, both living Stoke St Gregory
Witnesses: Mary C LEAVER, Matilda LEAVER   
Notes: "He signs X".
No ages, no occupations no parent info given.

Emanuel was buried at the same church, 30 Nov 1834, aged 28.

Judith