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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Topic started by: Evelina on Saturday 17 March 12 14:54 GMT (UK)
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Hi I wonder if anyone knows the following or can suggest which County is most likely for the names or if they are spread about or common as Smith for example. Thanks.
Richard Coulter born c1853 in Northern Ireland to Alexander Coulter, a farmer and Elizabeth Williamson.
Margaret Wilson born c1854 in Northern Ireland to John Wilson, wine & spirit Merchant and Elizabeth McClelland. John was deceased before 1880 and Elizabeth remarried a Mr. Clark.
Richard and Margaret both moved to Glasgow seperately and were married there in1880 but I do not know if they moved alone or with family however their witnesses were not Coulter, Clark or Wilson but Hamilton McMillan & Sarah Cuthbert.
I don't know how to get Richard or Margaret's birth certificates as I do not kmnow where in Northern Ireland they were born. Thanks Evelina
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Civil registration of births started in 1854 so there will be no birth certificates for Richard and Margaret.
Unfortunately the surnames are all common enough so they won't be any help in narrowing down a location.
However, I have a few ideas of local sources to check and will explain more in next post.
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No luck yet. Checked online Will Extracts (www.proni.org) but couldn't see any online Wills for either family.
Also did parent searches on www.familysearch.org but whilst there were at least 2 couples John Wilson/Elizabeth McClelland having children 1 was in Ontario and other (Antrim) 1876 + 1879.
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Thank you Aghadowey for trying, Ireland is so hard to crack but i live in hope of a connection someday. Cheers Evelina
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Hi,
One marriage for you. 10 Jun 1852 John Wilson married Eliza McClelland in Lisburn Civil Registrars Office, Co. Antrim.
Regards
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Hi,
This may also be yours. 26 May 1881 Alexander Clarke married Elizabeth Wilson in Dromore Unitarian Presbyterian Church, Banbridge District, Co. Down.
Regards
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Hi Kingskerswell
They look good thanks. Not sure about 2nd one as its the 1880 mc of Richard & Margaret that I got her mother's detials Elizabeth Clark formerley Wilson ms McClelland but i suppose she might have lived with him before marrying and just used the name?
Aghadowey/ You mentioned a birth in Antrim to John Wilson & Elizabeth McClelland so this could tie in. Can you give me the details of what you found please. Thanks.
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There were two births in Antrim- one 1876, one 1879. I found them by doing parents search on www.familysearch.org
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ok thanks will check them, Evelina
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Hi,
This may also be yours. 26 May 1881 Alexander Clarke married Elizabeth Wilson in Dromore Unitarian Presbyterian Church, Banbridge District, Co. Down.
Regards
Possibly this couple in 1901-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Quilly/Quilly/1206798/
and in 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Quilly/Quilly/208330/
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Checked out the census thanks - Alexander Clarke & Elizabeth Wilson cannot be mine the ages don't work. If Elizabeth had my relative in about 1854 she would be over 60 in 1901, this one is just 48. Thanks anyway, at least that clears one up.
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Hi Evelina, The very same question you started this thread with is the reason I’m here! I see you posted this in 2012 and wondered if you’ve had any luck in finding out any further information? I’d very much appreciate any info! Thank you!
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Hi do you have some of the names I have mentioned in your family? I am still struggling finding any info for most of them. cheers Evelyn
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Hi, thanks for your reply. Yes, I’m related, but I’m afraid I don’t know much more information other than someone on another site (I’m new here and don’t know if I can mention it), thinks that Richard Coulter’s siblings were born in Monaghan. Perhaps you’ve also seen this.
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Not sure about this, Monaghan appears to be southern Ireland my Richard was born in Northern Ireland unless the border changed? Sorry I have no info on any of his siblings if he had any.
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The border has actually only been there since the 1920s, so back then it would have been all Ireland and I’d say Monaghan geographically, especially back then, could still be considered in the north in that regard.
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Of course, sorry about that. I just googled Monaghan and saw it in the south, my mistake.
send a couple of PM's to you
Cheers Evelyn
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County Monaghan is one of the 9 Ulster counties but 3 of them (Monaghan, Cavan & Donegal) are not part of Northern Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster